atsah
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I think the Ford filters I use to buy at WM were like $16.00. The fuel filter set was $54.00.
Why no heavy duty Chevy pickup?
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atsah
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I had one dually CCLB that I pulled equipment up and down the east coast, they pull very nice. My other two trucks were CCLB single rear wheel, I pulled some with them as well and the diesels were needed for the torque and longevity.
Sawyer Rob
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OK, seeing as your temper tantrum seems to be over, I'll answer some of your concerns...
I mentioned the Detroit made 6.2L.. It takes the same filter as the gasser, no price difference at all, the fuel filter is 10 bucks... It holds 5 or 6 qts of oil, so what's the beef??
The Cummins, it holds 13 qts of oil, the oil filter is $8 bucks ea. the last time I bought a case of them from a CIH dealer, on their spring sale. The fuel filters were $12 ea., if I remember right... So, what's the beef??
I wouldn't take a 6.0 ford for FREE, so don't know how much filters are for them. There's plenty of them around that need FIXIN to make them some what reliable, why does any one buy a pu that they have to fix to make it reliable??
Actually, I don't care about "known issues", I care about what a pu cost ME to own it, and I've already said I picked decent diesel choices, BUT this got started because you said it cost more to maintain a diesel. I said THAT hasn't been true for mine, and it hasn't!
Don't like the answer? That's on you... lol Continue with personal attacks, and I will stop answering you too, just like I have the Richard Cranium here, because HE continuous with personal attacks...
The hilarious part is, he can't figure out why I never answer him! lol lol
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atsah
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Although I liked the 6.0 I'm certainly not going to defend them.
Someone back in the mid 2000's that was 75 cents short of a dollar decided it would be a good idea to put the 6.0 in an ambulance that sits idling most of the time, the worst thing you can do with that motor and people died because of it, the EGR valve and turbo would gum up and it would puke.
If you do you're own maintenance then ya you can do it within reason but most people don't, especially with the newer trucks, urea etc..
This got started because you implied everyone does there own maintenance, not everyone does and if you don't and use synthetic oil like I did and have the dealer do it with OEM products, one service every five thousand miles cost me $150.00 as opposed to my 6.2 gasser that costs $54,00..
If they break, there isn't much on them that's cheap.
So you do you're do own work, good for you but not everyone does, when you say it doesn't cost anymore than a gasser, you are talking about people like yourself and not including the people that can't do it themselves. My brother would do it once in a while when he had time but for the most part the dealer would take care of it.
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Maybe we should take a vote on who the real RC is.. I’d definitely take a 6.0 Ford for free and drive it until it breaks down and part out the rest. Anyone who wouldn’t do similar is crazy.
atsah
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I have no idea who RC is.
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According to Rob I am.
atsah
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There is a button on here somewhere, haven't used it yet but it's coming..
The GM trucks up here rot something terrible, rockers don't last no time, the dodge just completely rots and the Ford's cab corners and fenders go quickly. Four years and they are all falling apart, it's terrible.. The flatbed business up here is busy.
The GM trucks up here rot something terrible, rockers don't last no time, the dodge just completely rots and the Ford's cab corners and fenders go quickly. Four years and they are all falling apart, it's terrible.. The flatbed business up here is busy.
Renze
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Dont know why you guys in America insist that diesels have higher maintenance cost, in Europe its the other way around: no spark plugs or coils, filters arent any different, and gassers with hydraulic valve tappets need synthetic oil as much as diesels with hydraulic valve tappets. And they hold a bit more oil, which is a fraction of the fuel savings made. Reliability issues with DPF and EGR were never really an issue in Europe, because our smaller engines maintain a proper exhaust gas temperature at light loads for the DPF to function.
A 6.7 just isnt the engine to get some groceries, for most diesel drivers a 300hp ISB 4.5 would be a far smarter choice, for mixed application driving with and without trailer.
My take is that people who complain about diesel maintenance, simply bought more engine than their needs can justify.
A 6.7 just isnt the engine to get some groceries, for most diesel drivers a 300hp ISB 4.5 would be a far smarter choice, for mixed application driving with and without trailer.
My take is that people who complain about diesel maintenance, simply bought more engine than their needs can justify.
dnw64
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This is just speculation, but I believe that's because they expect the med and (true) heavy duty trucks to be driven all day every day and rack up a half million miles in no time. De-rating the engine will make it last longer, and that's extremely important to a fleet manager.
