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No, you are correct, the short cut, but still protruding ties can cut the Heck out of your hands, and I have been cut more than once. I have been known to cut them as close as I can get them and run a file over them, to make them smooth.

James K0UA
 
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What's funny to me, is if you don't like the way the ties on the Kubota look and the fact they are white, it would only take about a dollar and about 5 minutes to get some black ones and install them nicely and clip them.

James K0UA

Why do that, then we would not have anything to complain about.
 
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Why do that, then we would not have anything to complain about.

Yes, but you would have to admit this few white unclipped tie wrap thing is very trivial. Yes Yes I know it "shows sloppyness" or something. I remember a quote about an airlines, "if the tray tables have coffee stains on them the passengers think we don't service our engines".. I looked over my Kioti, and I could not even find a dozen tye wraps in total on the thing ,and I bet the Kubota is the same. I just think we are blowing this way out of proportion. I looked as several new Kubota's today at a farm show and they were all black. One had some kind of re-usable tye wrap with the tail tucked back into the harness. I guess what I am saying is this is just no big deal.
 
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The Devil is In the Details..... for some people.... others don't care to pay any attention. Rgds, D.


That's my Brother and I. I'm into details, he could care less. His new (3yr old now) tractor has only been washed once and that was by me. It only gets serviced when I do it.

I trailered my tractor from our farm to my house (8 miles) yesterday so I could wash it and wax it, for the third time this Summer. Pinched a hydraulic hose on my Grapple and misted it with hydraulic oil, couldn't leave that on there!!!

I hadn't owned my new Kubota more than a couple days when I went over it trimming and moving zip ties into an orderly fashion. Indicates caring which should indicate quality.
 
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What's funny to me, is if you don't like the way the ties on the Kubota look and the fact they are white, it would only take about a dollar and about 5 minutes to get some black ones and install them nicely and clip them. I have a complete drawer filled with tye-wraps, mostly black ones, of different sizes and include the ones that have a hole to be able to use a screw to mount them on something. Most are Hellerman Tyton, but I do have some "cheap Chinese junk" ones too. There is a big difference in them. James K0UA

I don't find it funny. When you pay $14,000 plus for a NEW factory made machine you shouldn't have to do a darn thing to it!
 
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Different expectations and obsessions. Ex. - Olde Tyme farmers weren't too worried about paint - many of their tractors lived outside, and were beat on as a working tool. Now some tractors get waxed frequently and the owners spend time/$ working on them the way some guys used to work on hot-rods. High end sound systems in tractors are not uncommon. This ain't GrandPa's tractor anymore ! As a maintenance supervisor at American Airlines once said "People see coffee stains on a passenger tray-table and assume we don't maintain our engines". The old perception-is-reality issue. There are valid points on both sides of that story. For what people spend today to buy a New tractor, many of them expect perfection. I say they have a point. If you can (or have to) tolerate less-than perfect - buy Used, you'll save some money - that's what I did. The Devil is In the Details..... for some people.... others don't care to pay any attention. I prefer quality UV stable ties, that's what I keep in stock and use often. Myself - I have a real issue with how ties are trimmed. That comes from having torn up the back of my hands on cut ties while working in cramped areas more than once. If I recall the OP's pic, I'd rather have ties trimmed long, than short-but-still-protruding. If you have that cut end protruding 1/8", it won't flex much at all, and will scrape/cut the **** out your skin with enough pressure. Left an inch long, a cut end readily flexes, and doesn't cause you as much skin damage. I use a really good quality flush cutting plier to trim my ties perfectly flush with the head - no cut hands later. :thumbsup: Something like these: 5'' Lightweight Flush Cutter - D275-5 | Klein Tools People reading this who don't spin wrenches may think I need my Meds changed. That might be true, but not based on the engineering points raised :D . Rgds, D.

Well written sir!
 
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And a big congratulations on hitting that mark. It turned into a very good topic in my opinion. :thumbsup:

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Yes, but you would have to admit this few white unclipped tie wrap thing is very trivial. Yes Yes I know it "shows sloppyness" or something. I remember a quote about an airlines, "if the tray tables have coffee stains on them the passengers think we don't service our engines".. I looked over my Kioti, and I could not even find a dozen tye wraps in total on the thing ,and I bet the Kubota is the same. I just think we are blowing this way out of proportion. I looked as several new Kubota's today at a farm show and they were all black. One had some kind of re-usable tye wrap with the tail tucked back into the harness. I guess what I am saying is this is just no big deal.

Were they large tractors or BX size. ZDs have tons of white ties. See 4shorts post. BXs do to.

Like I said my L3830 doesn't have any I don't think! It's made in Japan. I think the white ties are an American made Kubota thing!
 
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The two tractors I looked at were a L4600 and the new B2650cab model.. Both had black tie wraps. The L4600 had some kind of re-usable tie wrap with the tail pushed back under the wrap and the B2650 cab model had regular black ones clipped about like my Kioti pictures.
 
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That's my Brother and I. I'm into details, he could care less. His new (3yr old now) tractor has only been washed once and that was by me. It only gets serviced when I do it.

I trailered my tractor from our farm to my house (8 miles) yesterday so I could wash it and wax it, for the third time this Summer. Pinched a hydraulic hose on my Grapple and misted it with hydraulic oil, couldn't leave that on there!!!

I hadn't owned my new Kubota more than a couple days when I went over it trimming and moving zip ties into an orderly fashion. Indicates caring which should indicate quality.

Do you put both of your toplink pins through from the same side?
 
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I just found a thread on a Kubota cable tie failure.

Link
 
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Do you put both of your toplink pins through from the same side?

Hmmmm,,, have to think about that..... I don't think I do. I don't consider myself **** or OCD or anything like that. Spent 40+ years in the Military though so probably am a bit over organized... But again, I look at that as a quality issue, same with the Zip Ties. :)
 
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Can you show us some? You got my curiosity up now.
Okay TomSeller... in an overt attempt to keep this thread going and to finally respond to your request. Here are a few more. I will title them... Let's tame some spaghetti. These pics from a major regional Energy company.

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Okay TomSeller... in an overt attempt to keep this thread going and to finally respond to your request. Here are a few more. I will title them... Let's tame some spaghetti. These pics from a major regional Energy company.

Very nice. I am impressed. Sure is a nice example of before and after on the rack shot.
 

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