Dove tail option help

   / Dove tail option help #21  
Is it a deckover trailer?
I guess that would be a pretty good trick to have a deckover trailer of even moderate capacity only 16" off the ground.

About your CornPro pictures, I like the adjustable version so long as it isn't difficult to crank up. If the ground clearance is increased with it cranked up that would be a big plus. I'll bet it's the most expensive of the three options.
 
   / Dove tail option help #22  
That is a 1 ton van. IMO if you are pulling a bumper pull trailer the Chev van is much better than PU's. They are short from rear frame to axle and the engine sets further back over the front axle giving the van a better balance. If I need to I can pull that tractor almost clear forward on the trailer and not squat the truck too bad. The vans also have full box frames and the hitches are held on by 8 bolts crimped to the frame. The best part is they cost about 1/2 that of a PU. Sway has never been an issue for me.
You are correct about the vans for receiver hitch pulling. They are better than a pickup because of less rear overhang (not extended vans, though).
 
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#23  
Yeap, it is the most expensive.
 
   / Dove tail option help #24  
You are correct about the vans for receiver hitch pulling. They are better than a pickup because of less rear overhang (not extended vans, though).
Both versions of the Chevy maintain the same overhang. Ford's extended has a mile hanging back there and that is no good.
 
   / Dove tail option help #25  
I guess that would be a pretty good trick to have a deckover trailer of even moderate capacity only 16" off the ground.

I am sorry for the bad info. My trailer is not a deckover. Its a 18'x82" car hauler type with fenders. It has removable 5' ramps. Had a deckover for awhile and it did not fit my needs. Sold it to a guy that worked for me and did without a trailer for 5 years then got the this one.

Chris
 
   / Dove tail option help #26  
Both versions of the Chevy maintain the same overhang. Ford's extended has a mile hanging back there and that is no good.
I would have to disagree, on the no good part, to give you my background: My family has had 2 15 passenger Ford vans (1993 (Gas, was driven to 170k or so and sold because we needed more power to tow a 16' horse trailer) and 1999 (7.3L Diesel, Currently at almost 200k miles, with no major problems not caused by a dealer)), before we had that we had a 15 passenger Dodge conversion van (1980something, got burned in a barn fire).
At work (a hotel) we had 3 15 passenger Ford vans (2004 and 2005) and 2 15 passenger Chevrolet vans (2004 and 2005), we have since sold the Fords, the reason the hotel sold them was that 5 vans was too many (long story as to why there were 5 vans in the first place) and the Chevrolet vans have traction control, power seats and remote door locks, so they stayed.

I would rather drive with the Ford vans, their mirrors are light years ahead of the Chevrolet's (they actually have a blind spot mirror built in), the drivers seat is also 3-4 inches closer to the middle in the fords, which isnt a big deal for smaller people, but I am not a small person (5' 11" 260#) and the Chevrolet seats are too narrow for me, also the fords have a smaller blind spot due to the seat being more centered, you can see between the seat and the A pillar and through the windows behind the A pillar, which I cant do on the Chevrolet vans.

to their credit, the Chevrolet vans have a little more cargo space with the back seat out (as long as you remove the brilliantly placed jack from the middle of the floor) and the back doors open wider, but the interior height is shorter due to the carpet being at the height of the top of the seat rails.

As for maintainance, I am told (by some friends who bought a 15 passenger Chevrolet) that the 15 passenger specific parts (exhaust system, drive shaft, windows, etc) are more expensive because unlike in the Fords those parts only fit the 15 passenger vans, they don't fit the other vans or the trucks.

as for the 15 passenger Dodge vans, when we were replacing the old dodge we looked at dodges but they were all LOUD inside, and the LOOOOOONG tail over the back axle looked problematic, so we went with a Ford and haven't looked back, we also looked at the Chevrolet vans but we didn't like the feel and they didn't have a diesel engine available.

We got the 1999 Ford E350 with 80 or 90k miles on it in 2000 and have had it ever since, it has never let us down, it has made many trips from NY to GA with and without a trailer behind it, it has also gone from GA to NYC to pickup a 18'x48' pool (in the van, on the roof and behind the van) it has had transmission work done (after it went to a dealership for recall work, they drive it around in the back lot and got a couple of pieces of 1.5-2.5" rock in the bellhousing where they made an awful racket (which they couldent find) until we took it to a good independent shop who found the (almost polished) rocks and gave them to us.
other than that the only major issues have been a alternator that froze up and a oil leak (only when hot and at 2000+ rpms) from somewhere in the valley at the top of the engine.

Aaron Z
 
   / Dove tail option help #27  
Unless they recently changed it the Ford extended van ( There is one here at work) has twice as much frame aft of the axle as my Chev. I think you are on the mark with most of your post except one basic thing. How they Drive! My FIL has a Ford same year as mine (02) and its a wandering pig on the road. Drive it 10 miles and your plum wore out fighting it and its been that way since new. My Chev handles and tracks perfect. OBTW my jack is not in the middle. Its mounted on the side in the R/H back corner. Its a panel van which maybe is why. At least in the Chevs the panels are not clubs with the seats out. There are differences throughout.
 
   / Dove tail option help #28  
Unless they recently changed it the Ford extended van ( There is one here at work) has twice as much frame aft of the axle as my Chev.
yes, the Ford has twice as much "tail" as the Chevrolet, however (and this may be a "how I am used to driving thing) when backing up a trailer, a longer "tail" isn't necessarily a bad thing... at least I haven't ever found it to be (and the Dodge has 3x the overhang the Chevrolet has, all three of their fullsize vans have the same wheelbase) so I find the ford to be a "happy medium" between the two.
I think you are on the mark with most of your post except one basic thing. How they Drive! My FIL has a Ford same year as mine (02) and its a wandering pig on the road. Drive it 10 miles and your plum wore out fighting it and its been that way since new. My Chev handles and tracks perfect.
That must depend on the van, the 4 15 passenger Fords I have driven have handled well, as have the 2 Chevrolets. The biggest difference driving them on the interstate is that the Ford will use the engine to hold the van back to the set speed, whereas the Chevrolet will let it go up to wherever gravity takes it.

OBTW my jack is not in the middle. Its mounted on the side in the R/H back corner. Its a panel van which maybe is why.
In the hotel vans the jack is 6" out from the RH wall and ~10-12" forward of the back doors, it is fine with the seat in, but without the seat it is in the way.

At least in the Chevs the panels are not clubs with the seats out. There are differences throughout.
the panel vans probably have 2-3" more height inside just from taking the carpet out, I can understand why they have the carpet at the level of the seat brackets in the passenger vans (and I like it when loading bags of stuff with the seats out), but I don't like it when the seats are in and you have 6" of clearance under the seat, as opposed to 12" in the fords.

Aaron Z
 
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#29  
I have now checked out Corn Pro, Moritz, PJ, Titan, and Mustang deck over trailers. Anyone have any others they thing are as good or better quality for same or less money?
 
   / Dove tail option help #30  
I have now checked out Corn Pro, Moritz, PJ, Titan, and Mustang deck over trailers. Anyone have any others they thing are as good or better quality for same or less money?


Check out Rolls Rite.com they are built here in Marianna, FL and I know they have some dealers in Ohio. They are custom trailer builders and can/will build whatever you want/need.

Stu
 

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