Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link

   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #31  
I agree that the 18-26.5 isn't perfect, but I'd say that something more like a 16-24 would be better. With my back blade with my 18-26.5 I find that there's too much 'toe forward' (ie the cylinder is too long), and that some more 'toe backward' (ie a shorter TL) would be more useful.

Just my thoughts. Overall a very good product, with great service.

-Jer.

I am also thinking of adding a hydraulic top link. My current one measures 17.5" closed and 27" closed. Based on your experience, would you recommend going with the 16-22.5" or the 18-26.5" toplink from CCM? Also with the hydraulic hoses disconnected, will the cylinder stay fixed. I have a splitter that I would like to run off the same set of remotes, and would like to switch the hydraulic lines one the splitter is attached.

Thanks,

Ken
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #32  
Also with the hydraulic hoses disconnected, will the cylinder stay fixed. I have a splitter that I would like to run off the same set of remotes, and would like to switch the hydraulic lines one the splitter is attached.

Whether or not you get the pilot valve option, the cyl will not move when
you disconnect the hoses if you use QD fittings. However, you will need
to take the pressure off the hoses before you can attach or detach them.
Once detached the QDs will maintain any pressure in the hoses that
is re-applied.
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link
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I am also thinking of adding a hydraulic top link. My current one measures 17.5" closed and 27" closed. Based on your experience, would you recommend going with the 16-22.5" or the 18-26.5" toplink from CCM? Also with the hydraulic hoses disconnected, will the cylinder stay fixed. I have a splitter that I would like to run off the same set of remotes, and would like to switch the hydraulic lines one the splitter is attached.

Thanks,

Ken

Get the 18-26 for sure that's as close as you can get to the range you have now, with the smaller one you would barely get it to go back as far as just vertical.

I wish mine went further out but it does go past vertical a couple of inches and from what I've heard most work is done angling implement forward.

It sure make using QH even faster, picking up rear implements, lineing all 3 points up with ease and tipping them forward to be able to reach the release handles even easier without stretching.
Also found an added benefit that's almost a necessary, when climbing the ramps on my new equipment trailer, even with 3 pt all the way up the cutting edge of my box blade dug in, no problem now, just tilt it forward to provide plenty of clearance.
That was just a short BB, imagine a long rake or mower, you'd be all day cranking that top link in to gain the needed clearance.

JB.
 

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   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #34  
JB4310,
Do you know what your trailer weighs empty?
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #36  
I am also thinking of adding a hydraulic top link. My current one measures 17.5" closed and 27" closed. Based on your experience, would you recommend going with the 16-22.5" or the 18-26.5" toplink from CCM? Also with the hydraulic hoses disconnected, will the cylinder stay fixed. I have a splitter that I would like to run off the same set of remotes, and would like to switch the hydraulic lines one the splitter is attached.

Thanks,

Ken

I must say, I'd try the 16-22.5" if I were to do it again. I say this because my factory TL was 19.5" to 30", and I went with the 18-26.5", and I still find the TL is too long when fully retracted. I'm not the most experienced operator, but I can't envision what function needs 30+ degrees of 'toe forward' along with almost no 'toe backward'. 'toe' meaning the bottom edge of a blade or landscape rake. I imagine having the blade or rake pointed toe backward would allow dirt/gravel/snow etc to 'roll' better.

My suggestion would be to put an implement on your 3pt and take some TL length measurements at vertical, and at the angles at which you see yourself working, and make sure the range of the TL you choose includes those numbers.

Also, when you order from CCM, specify your color!!!
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #37  
Where does CCM measure their top links? Is this from the center of the connector or the ends of the shaft?
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #38  
Where does CCM measure their top links? Is this from the center of the connector or the ends of the shaft?

Good Question. I'd assume it's from the centers of the connector holes, but just call Mark at CCM, or email him, and he'll let you know.

-Jer.
 
   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #39  
My suggestion would be to put an implement on your 3pt and take some TL length measurements at vertical, and at the angles at which you see yourself working, and make sure the range of the TL you choose includes those numbers.
That is the best way to determine the REAL length of your top link.
Most cylinders are measured center to center of the connection eyes and clevis. I'm pretty sure CCM is no different. You can ask (or look up) what is the fully closed distance and fully extended distance. Compare that to what you measure with your implement tilted front to back and visa versa.
A consideration would be to add another hole in the implement top link attachment if needed to get the desired tilt. Even if you have to add a plate to it. You might not need to do that all your implements either, just the ones that don't have the desired tilt front to back.

As far as the valve, you can get adapters to screw into the valve such as for the Prince SV valve. I think they are ORB 8 (1/2 SAE) that screw into the valve. The other end of the connector adapter can be just about anything you want it to be, either male or female. I used JIC 8 for the other end instead of NPT. Much easier to work with.
Here's a link to that: ORB FITTINGS/CONNECTORS/ADAPTERS

Discount Hydraulics also has Metric and British connectors like what you need for that CCM top link DPOCV and the cylinder ports.
In case you ever need to alter or change etc. I have several of those DPOCV's on many cylinders for my tractor(s), so I've researched what threads they are.
The ports to the cylinders (and the banjo bolt thread) is 3/8 BSPP (parallel thread). The threads going into the DPOCV itself are 3/8 BSP (tapered thread). I see they used an adapter connector on your check valve going from BSP to 3/8 NPT, but you could have used any other connection if you want.
Here is a link to some of those connectors/adapters: BRITISH/METRIC CONNECTORS/ADAPTERS

As far as your hoses, I use their re-usable hose ends.
That makes making your hoses in your garage easy. You can make them the EXACT length you want plus have a JIC hose end on them. You could even alter the hose a little if it was too long or if say a 90 degree fitting was facing the wrong way. Cost for these re-usable hose ends plus cost of the hose was less than what you paid for your hoses. They hold up just the same and are reusable but offer so much more when you get to make up yourself.
For example, I paid $1.50 a foot for 2 wire 3/8" hose and between $10 and $18 for the ends. So a 4' long hose cost me $32 bucks and it is a perfect fit ... perfect ends facing the right way etc.
Here is a link to that: RE-USABLE HOSE ENDS

I hope some of that information helps...
Rob-
 
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   / Help specifying Hydraulic Top Link #40  
JB,

That looks great, i remember seeing that on another post and just found this thread.

I would like to put one on mine and wondering if i could on a 4300.

And i have a backhoe, would that be a problem mounting the valve.
 

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