Buying Advice bx or b series and what horsepower

[JOHNTHOMAS]

After a bit more pondering I will admit that if I didn't have hillside property between the BX, B and L (with my 5+ acres residential home site) I'd have a B FEL/BH and an F for mowing. For me that's the perfect combination of size and power and utilization for flatland or slightly rolling (Residential) land. I like my BX's and the L but I liked the B's the best.

 

[bp fick]

JT, too funny. Way too funny.

Everyone has their own comfort level. JohnThomas has a philosophy that says to him, life is short. He doesn't gamble, drink or run around spending money on other things. So, for him, he enjoys what he does. Trade.

Each of us has our own way of "ciphering". Here is mine, FWIW, which isn't a whole lot.

I don't make the new purchase until I have un-done the previous purchase. This slows me down. If I want a new fishing boat, I first sell the old one. If I want to buy another house, I first sell the old one. If I want a new tractor, which I did, I first sold my old one.

This tests my commitment to the decision and many ways. It also produces the least "loss" on the exchange.

Oh, and did I mention this slows me down?

 

[jdonovan]

But this fails to account for the BX25's stated weight includes the Back Hoe, while the B2920's weight is a bare tractor.

So from kubota's spec sheet the weights are:

BX25 1542
BX2660 1389

You say the 25 is with loader and backhoe, but the other tractors are weighed with out implements.

The 2660 and 25 are the same base frame

So you're telling me that the hoe and loader and associated brackets combined weigh a total of 153 lbs?

Here are the real weights:
LA240 Loader Weight: 375 lbs.
Loader Bucket Weight: 132 lbs.
BT601 Backhoe Weight: 578 lbs.
Backhoe Bucket Weight: 40 lbs. ( will change slightly depending on bucket size)
Total Weight: 2667 lbs.

All I'm saying is that there is sometimes an underlying current that any step up from a BX should almost dismiss the B series on its way to the L series. I would urge the OP to take his time. Given that his BX25 is less than 2 years old, there is a lot of money riding on his decision to trade or no trade.

I think we all are saying the same thing... if the OP is really running out of capacity on a BX25 he may not be fully pleased with the increase in capability that moving to the B provides.

If you compare the BX to the 30's in the B series there is more capacity to gain, but the 30's are VERY large vs the BX and if the #1 task for the OP is grass mowing, then I'd feel right there the 2630/3030 are a bad choice as a lawn mower.

If the 2630/3030 is off the table then you look at the BX25 vs 2930 there is much less difference between them.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

JT, too funny. Way too funny.

Everyone has their own comfort level. JohnThomas has a philosophy that says to him, life is short. He doesn't gamble, drink or run around spending money on other things. So, for him, he enjoys what he does. Trade.

Each of us has our own way of "ciphering". Here is mine, FWIW, which isn't a whole lot.

I don't make the new purchase until I have un-done the previous purchase. This slows me down. If I want a new fishing boat, I first sell the old one. If I want to buy another house, I first sell the old one. If I want a new tractor, which I did, I first sold my old one.

This tests my commitment to the decision and many ways. It also produces the least "loss" on the exchange.

Oh, and did I mention this slows me down?

I agree. Well said. But...............he's right, it slows him down. I'm to old to slow down. I don't have as many years ahead as I do behind. I have to hurry to get in as much as I can with the time I have left.
Once I've decided what I need and why I need it, I do slow down for sometimes a day or maybe even two while I do extensive research but when the research has been done to where I know the difference between a great, good, decent or high price (or think I do) then it's get the keys and wallet and get gone or buy it online.
If I can't find what I think is a great or good price then I stop and search for something else I need. Most people I buy from know they have one shot and it's while I'm sitting there to get the deal done. Rarely do I ever come back, rarely, but sometimes I find they offered the best deal and I will return.
I used to tell people to never buy another house while they still own one. I've done it once and it educated me for years then I built my own house while still owning the one I lived in. Another period of sweating. A house is more than 15 or 20 tractors or cars so I don't feel quite the same with a tractor but I don't trade/buy unless I can afford the payments while still having decent spending money left for travel and other hobbies. I only sold one Kubota myself and waited to sell it before buying another. The rest I received a new Kubota off the back of Barlows truck and they left with my old one on their truck so no double payments and no dealing with idiots or crooks at my home or business.

 

[michellekurt77]

We have a dry rocky 1-acre land. I need to know what make and horse power requirement for tractor to cultivate it.

 

[jdonovan]

We have a dry rocky 1-acre land. I need to know what make and horse power requirement for tractor to cultivate it.

start a new thread.... there is no need to mix your wants/needs in with this thread.

 

[bp fick]

So from kubota's spec sheet the weights are:

BX25 1542
BX2660 1389

You say the 25 is with loader and backhoe, but the other tractors are weighed with out implements.

The 2660 and 25 are the same base frame

So you're telling me that the hoe and loader and associated brackets combined weigh a total of 153 lbs?

Here are the real weights:
LA240 Loader Weight: 375 lbs.
Loader Bucket Weight: 132 lbs.
BT601 Backhoe Weight: 578 lbs.
Backhoe Bucket Weight: 40 lbs. ( will change slightly depending on bucket size)
Total Weight: 2667 lbs.

Man, I am not sure. I admit it. Not at all. The specs sheets just don't seem to tell the whole story. I think we need some better data here, and that is all I am saying. They need to be compared in full field dress, that's all.

What does a BX25, with FEL and BH weigh? What does a B2920 with FEL and Backhoe weigh? There has GOT to be more than 12lbs difference between the two.

Since the B2920 can hold an extra 200-300 lbs of liquid tire ballast more, we'll just leave that out of the equation, at the moment.

 

[jdonovan]

What does a BX25, with FEL and BH weigh?

What does a B2920 with FEL and Backhoe weigh?



Since the B2920 can hold an extra 200 lbs of liquid tire ballast more, we'll just leave that out of the equation, at the moment.

2920 1554
2920 346 FEL 495
2920 BH65 Backhoe 1400


similarly equipped -
2920 total weight - 3449
bx25 total weight - 2667

There has GOT to be more than 12lbs difference between the two.

There is once you start equipping them... But the base machines are really only a few lbs different.

Quite interesting.

Keep in mind the BX25 is a special variant of the BX series designed for backhoe use, and is 10-20% heavier than the other BX models.

 

[bp fick]

Quite interesting.

Keep in mind the BX25 is a special variant of the BX series designed for backhoe use, and is 10-20% heavier than the other BX models.

Where does the BX get that extra stated weight? I would be most curious to know. It does not have the heavier engine block of the BX2660. OK, the seat mechanism turns about, but still. Wheels/tires? No. Transmission? I don't think so. Is the frame heavier than it's BX2360 sister? Is there some iron, from a sub-frame that is included in the BX25 stated weight? I honestly do not know.

Quite interesting indeed.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Where does the BX get that extra stated weight? I would be most curious to know. It does not have the heavier engine block of the BX2660. OK, the seat mechanism turns about, but still. Wheels/tires? No. Transmission? I don't think so. Is the frame heavier than it's BX2360 sister? Is there some iron, from a sub-frame that is included in the BX25 stated weight? I honestly do not know.

Quite interesting indeed.

My understanding is a subframe for/because of the BH is built into the BX25 and the B's that come with BH. Used to read about adding BH's to some of the smaller tractors that just hooked to 3ph as a never do due to the stresses and contortions placed on the equipment. Recommended to always add the subframe or frame arms (or what ever it's called) for/with the BH.