Getting Kubota TLB L46. Need some help

[avc8130]

This just doesn't fit the debate at hand.

Re-checked the brochure for the 45....
"...weighing in with loader and backhoe at approximately 7200 pounds, use your CLASS C LICENSE and a 3/4 ton pickup truck with a 10,000-pound GVWR rated trailer to move the L45 from site to site quickly and easily."

Seems like Kubota feels it fits the debate at hand.
ac

 

[Duffster]

Re-checked the brochure for the 45....
"...weighing in with loader and backhoe at approximately 7200 pounds, use your CLASS C LICENSE and a 3/4 ton pickup truck with a 10,000-pound GVWR rated trailer to move the L45 from site to site quickly and easily."

Seems like Kubota feels it fits the debate at hand.
ac

Still has no relevance. It doesn't prove or disprove anything.

That could be done with a 3/4 ton and 12k GVWR trailer, or a 3/4 ton and a 14k GVWR trailer, and a 3/4 ton and 16k GVWR trailer. All with a class C, or a class D here or a class E in some states.

Like jdonovan pointed out whether or not the trailer is over 10k GVWR or not can dictate what class of licenses you need it will still depend on the truck towing it..

 

[Tailrotor]

Re-checked the brochure for the 45....
"...weighing in with loader and backhoe at approximately 7200 pounds, use your CLASS C LICENSE and a 3/4 ton pickup truck with a 10,000-pound GVWR rated trailer to move the L45 from site to site quickly and easily."

Seems like Kubota feels it fits the debate at hand.
ac

Avc8130

No your wrong and they are right. No one else can be right but Duffster. Even know if you do a search there are thousands of post which state the same thing I have tried to explain to them on the web.

And who am I . I just own one and haul it around and do work with it. But hey I have to be wrong because One guy that sits on his computer that has over 3000 post knows everything about everything. We all have to be wrong.

I can tell one thing your not out there working if your sitting making 3000 post on T.B.N.

Here is my L45 at 7200lbs and my!! 10k G.V.W.R trailer. This is legal that I know for sure. If I had a 12k G.V.W.R trailer hook to my truck empty I would get a fine because I don't have a class A CDL.

Another thing some people need to read is the difference between G.V.W.R & G.C.W.R.

 

[Tailrotor]

Still has no relevance. It doesn't prove or disprove anything.

That could be done with a 3/4 ton and 12k GVWR trailer, or a 3/4 ton and a 14k GVWR trailer, and a 3/4 ton and 16k GVWR trailer. All with a class C, or a class D here or a class E in some states.

Like jdonovan pointed out whether or not the trailer is over 10k GVWR or not can dictate what class of licenses you need it will still depend on the truck towing it..

You are an idiot

 

[Duffster]

You are an idiot

Pretty bold statement for someone that can't read.

Facts buddy. Facts?

 

[Tailrotor]

Pretty bold statement for someone that can't read.

Facts buddy. Facts?

I can read and no the difference between GVWR & GCWR you don't.
Do a search and see how many people agree with me and kubota but hey we are all wrong and you are right.

 

[Duffster]

I can read and no the difference between GVWR & GCWR you don't.

So please explain the difference between GVWR and GCWR and how it is confused here?

You repetitively throw statements like this out yet can not explain anything or prove your point or post any FACTS.

You obviously don't know Jack Schit.

YouTube - You don't lnow Jack Schit

:laughing:

 

[Duffster]

Here are the classes of license for PA.

WHAT ARE THE CLASSES OF COMMERCIAL DRIVER LICENSES?
In accordance with the licensing requirements of the Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act, the license
classifications are:
CLASS A - combination vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, provided
the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
CLASS B - single vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such
vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
CLASS C - single vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 26,001 pounds if the vehicle
is: transporting hazardous materials requiring placarding; is designed to transport 16 or
more passengers, including the driver; or, is a school bus.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-cdl.pdf


My 2nd grade son can read this.

Here is who must have a CDL.

WHO MUST HAVE A COMMERCIAL DRIVER担 LICENSE (CDL)?
Anyone who drives a commercial motor vehicle. The definition of a commercial motor vehicle is:
a) a combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds;
b) a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 or more pounds;
c) a vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver;
d) a school bus; or
e) any vehicle that is transporting hazardous materials and is required to be placarded in accordance
with State and Federal regulations.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-cdl.pdf

My 1st grade daughter can read this.

 

[Tailrotor]

Here are the classes of license for PA.


http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-cdl.pdf


My 2nd grade son can read this.

Here is who must have a CDL.



http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-cdl.pdf

My 1st grade daughter can read this.

Ok one more time when the trailer is in excess of 10k you now have to get the next class of licenses. Period!! Look I drive and haul one day in and day out have been stop many times . You are wrong you look at it that if you don't meet both parts of the equation you can tow what you want. You can't!!

Look lets say a tractor trailer bed 18 wheeler. Weighs in at 15k empty and my F250 is at 8k so I can just hook up to it and go. 23k total. You will have your ***** FINED OFF.

 

[Tailrotor]

To the original poster I would like to say I am sorry for how this turn out and I would get the 12in bucket & 24in bucket.

If you have question about a L45 please PM me and I will be glad to answer any and all if I can.

And last, to the Moderator Please close this thread. I can't take it know more and its not fair to the original poster.

Thank You & Sorry!!

 

[Duffster]

Look lets say a tractor trailer bed 18 wheeler. Weighs in at 15k empty and my F250 is at 8k so I can just hook up to it and go. 23k total. You will have your ***** FINED OFF.

Have I once referenced what it weights? I have not.

I have even stated that it doesn't matter what it weights because it goes by GVWR.

Here is the number for the PA office of the FMCSA. Phone: (717) 614-4060

Maybe you will believe them.

 

[Tailrotor]

Have I once referenced what it weights? I have not.

I have even stated that it doesn't matter what it weights because it goes by GVWR.

Here is the number for the PA office of the FMCSA. Phone: (717) 614-4060

Maybe you will believe them.

And here is a link for all to enjoy to see what you argue all the time and have been proven wrong many time over and over. But like I said we are all wrong but you. Duffster super genius!!:laughing:http://www.lawnsite.com/archive/index.php/t-331114.html

 

[Duffster]

And here is a link for all to enjoy to see what you argue all the time and have been proven wrong many time over and over. But like I said we are all wrong but you. Duffster super genius!!:laughing:http://www.lawnsite.com/archive/index.php/t-331114.html

You still don't have anything.

 

[hutch4472]

These CDL topics always go this route, fellas its truly not either of your fault, its the government (weird I know). Obviously the people posting about what the Federal gov. regs are should know that that is the minimum standard. The individual states can however be MORE restrictive. It does get a little weird when you cross state lines also. The Commercial fellas have this covered with their Class A CDL. For instance I can tow triples (i.e. tow a boat behind my Fifth Wheel) here in Calif. (as long as I'm not over 65ft long tip to tip) but if I cross into Oregon I'm illegal, gotta drop the boat and come back for it. Also (by the way nice set up you got Tailrotor) by Calif. law (same as PA it seems) I am illegal everytime I tow my 14k GVWR flatbed behind my F350. Even though I have a Class B CDL and even if I tow it empty, because its weight rating is greater then 10k I need at least a non-commercial Class A to tow it legal here in CA. The over 26k thing only pertains to a single vehicle, no trailer. Over 10k GVWR trailer no matter what you tow with (unless its a Camping trailer ((figure that one out, no limit for those)), you need a Class A license to be legal. Here in CA I mean, I realize this is different state to state. They are well on their way to making us all frigging crazy.

 

[Tailrotor]

These CDL topics always go this route, fellas its truly not either of your fault, its the government (weird I know). Obviously the people posting about what the Federal gov. regs are should know that that is the minimum standard. The individual states can however be MORE restrictive. It does get a little weird when you cross state lines also. The Commercial fellas have this covered with their Class A CDL. For instance I can tow triples (i.e. tow a boat behind my Fifth Wheel) here in Calif. (as long as I'm not over 65ft long tip to tip) but if I cross into Oregon I'm illegal, gotta drop the boat and come back for it. Also (by the way nice set up you got Tailrotor) by Calif. law (same as PA it seems) I am illegal everytime I tow my 14k GVWR flatbed behind my F350. Even though I have a Class B CDL and even if I tow it empty, because its weight rating is greater then 10k I need at least a non-commercial Class A to tow it legal here in CA. The over 26k thing only pertains to a single vehicle, no trailer. Over 10k GVWR trailer no matter what you tow with (unless its a Camping trailer ((figure that one out, no limit for those)), you need a Class A license to be legal. Here in CA I mean, I realize this is different state to state. They are well on their way to making us all frigging crazy.

Thanks for the complement on the rig Hutch!!

 

[wedge40]

These CDL topics always go this route, fellas its truly not either of your fault, its the government (weird I know). Obviously the people posting about what the Federal gov. regs are should know that that is the minimum standard. The individual states can however be MORE restrictive. It does get a little weird when you cross state lines also. The Commercial fellas have this covered with their Class A CDL. For instance I can tow triples (i.e. tow a boat behind my Fifth Wheel) here in Calif. (as long as I'm not over 65ft long tip to tip) but if I cross into Oregon I'm illegal, gotta drop the boat and come back for it. Also (by the way nice set up you got Tailrotor) by Calif. law (same as PA it seems) I am illegal everytime I tow my 14k GVWR flatbed behind my F350. Even though I have a Class B CDL and even if I tow it empty, because its weight rating is greater then 10k I need at least a non-commercial Class A to tow it legal here in CA. The over 26k thing only pertains to a single vehicle, no trailer. Over 10k GVWR trailer no matter what you tow with (unless its a Camping trailer ((figure that one out, no limit for those)), you need a Class A license to be legal. Here in CA I mean, I realize this is different state to state. They are well on their way to making us all frigging crazy.

I've followed some these "discussions" before and you've cleared up some stuff for me. I have trailer that's rated (stickered) at 12,000 lbs, unless I have a class a CDL I can't use it? I bought the trailer to give leeway when towing.

I'm kind being facetious here, but what's to stop me from removing the tag and putting one that says it's a 10,000lb trailer?

Wedge

 

[jdonovan]

I'm kind being facetious here, but what's to stop me from removing the tag and putting one that says it's a 10,000lb trailer?

Generally a few pop rivets.

 

[Tailrotor]

I've followed some these "discussions" before and you've cleared up some stuff for me. I have trailer that's rated (stickered) at 12,000 lbs, unless I have a class a CDL I can't use it? I bought the trailer to give leeway when towing.

I'm kind being facetious here, but what's to stop me from removing the tag and putting one that says it's a 10,000lb trailer?

Wedge

Because when you get pulled over and the cop says owners card and registration. It will show its a 14k trailer. Remember your trailer has a owners card and registration at least here in PA they do.

 

[SixHoeBob]

Why not change the thread title to "TLB L48", so it looks like we all know what we are reading about?

 

[hutch4472]

I've followed some these "discussions" before and you've cleared up some stuff for me. I have trailer that's rated (stickered) at 12,000 lbs, unless I have a class a CDL I can't use it? I bought the trailer to give leeway when towing.

I'm kind being facetious here, but what's to stop me from removing the tag and putting one that says it's a 10,000lb trailer?

Wedge

Not sure where your from but in CA yes, if you tow a trailer with a 12k GCWR you are illegal unless you have a Class A. Anything towed that has the weight rating over 10k lbs requires a Class A (can be a non-commercial) no matter what you tow it with. And yes you can go down to your local DMV (at least here in CA) and have your trailer de-rated to 10k lbs (its actually 10001 lbs that makes you illegal without a Class A) to be legal, then they will re-print the registration with the new numbers and you can then change the tag on the trailer. Good for you to buy something rated well above what you intend to haul.