Loader Kioti & Polebarnzilla

   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla
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After the beams are done I will start on the 20 16' rafters......
 
   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #22  
What a great project, those saw mills sure are nice! :thumbsup:
 
   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #23  
What's the plan for fastening those beams to the poles?
 
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I haven't decided yet Milk. I may notch the side of the pole, but it weakens it. So, I am now thinking of some 5x5 or 5x6 angle iron lag bolted to the pole forming a shelf to sit the beam on, then use log home screws to attach the beam to the pole. I could make a lot of "brackets" out of one section of angle so it would be cheap. Even cheaper if my local steel place has some as scrap in their dumpster....I love dumpster diving:D

RD
 
   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #25  
With the long spans and beefy structural members there will be alot of vertical load on those attachment points. That is probably going to be a critical decision. I wish I could offer you some advice, but I'd only be guessing at what might work.

I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with though. It's great to see a guy who's not afraid of thinking big.
 
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Not as critical as you think. The drop shed beams only have to support a tin roof, so there is a negligible amount of weight on it. I went with larger beams due to the horizontal twisting load that the wind will give it when it is all done. I probably could have used a 3x10, but I have the trees, so bigger they will be.
I am thinking a partial notch and a bracket. I went to a timber frame class a few years ago, so I have a little bit of knowlege(dangerous right?). The TF purist will cringe at my mecahnical attachments, but purist I ain't!
 
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   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #27  
BR, how many blades did he mess up? I havent put a used pole on the mill...too much metal in them & the thought of cresote dust all over me is not my idea of fun:laughing:.

I know nothing more than he told me ... he said he had an easy time and the biggest issue is gumming on the blade. I asked about the nails and such and he said clean them the best you can. I was happy and he told me if you get more just bring them to me.

Do you do any custom cutting? He charges by the hour ... $45 per hour if you bring the logs and I don't recall how much a BF if its his logs.
 
   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #28  
I haven't decided yet Milk. I may notch the side of the pole, but it weakens it. So, I am now thinking of some 5x5 or 5x6 angle iron lag bolted to the pole forming a shelf to sit the beam on, then use log home screws to attach the beam to the pole. I could make a lot of "brackets" out of one section of angle so it would be cheap. Even cheaper if my local steel place has some as scrap in their dumpster....I love dumpster diving:D

RD

Maybe both a notch and some other form of support ? If the beam is 5" you could notch 3" and put a 2" wood support below the beam ... or use the metal bracket with the notch ... just thinking.
 
   / Kioti & Polebarnzilla #29  
...................... I went to a timber frame class a few years ago, so I have a little bit of knowlege(dangerous right?). The TF purist will cringe at my mecahnical attachments, but purist I ain't!

I was guessing by the framing of your mill shed that you weren't brand new to this. I'll be following along and interested in seeing it all come together.
 
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I have all the wood cut:

4- 2.5x10x20 beams(yes, I decided to go smaller)
4- 3x7x20 beams
22- 2x7x17 rafters
A huge pile of purlins & siding
A bunch of knee braces

I have a platform for my forks & my neighbor is lending us his 70 horse Deere, so I will build another fork platform for it. This beats the heck out of schlepping scaffolding around, we can lift beams up safely, and a bonus is that it gets the saftey police all riled up:p

Best yet is a bud is visiting from FL & doesn't want ot "sit around"....whooohoo!

Pic's to follow.....
 

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