Horse barn project

[Chilly807]

The shingling is coming along, we have both gable ends finished now, and on to the sides. The staple count is at ~ 6000-7000 so far, and 19 bundles of shingles.

Steel for the roof is going on tomorrow if it doesn't rain, and concrete floor scheduled for next Tuesday.

Sean

 

[Chilly807]

Let's just say it rained on Saturday and leave it at that. I looked out once and there were two tabbies and a shnauzer going past the window in the deluge...

Anyway, today was a better day. We got the back half of the roof clad in steel, and part of the front this evening. Tomorrow should see it done if all goes well. We had three people this morning, just my wife and I tonight. Not an easy job for 2 people, but ok if there's no wind.

2 inch screws with a cup washer and a rubber grommet to hold the stuff down with, 50 screws per sheet. There were 15 sheets of steel in the pile (enough to do half the roof, waiting to be drilled all at the same time. 14 feet long and about 3 feet wide.

Sean

 

[BeezFun]

Curious how you get your roofing so square. No matter what I do I usually end up with the drip edge running up or downhill a little because I can't get that first right angle laid out to start the first edge. The other thing I do is pull each sheet up or down a smidge to make up for it. I've been tempted to put two screws in first sheet then add a few more sheets to see where the edge actually ends up, then go back and adjust first sheet before screwing it down. So far I've only used metal roofing on buildings that were already falling down, or were just for horses, so I didn't put too much effort into it. If I ever built something that nice I'd want to figure out how to get things straight.

 

[wedge40]

A chalk line is cheap. On new "square" building this will help, on an older building you might have to do some cyphering to get things figured so they'll look square.

Wedge

 

[ustmd]

Let's just say it rained on Saturday and leave it at that. I looked out once and there were two tabbies and a shnauzer going past the window in the deluge...

Anyway, today was a better day. We got the back half of the roof clad in steel, and part of the front this evening. Tomorrow should see it done if all goes well. We had three people this morning, just my wife and I tonight. Not an easy job for 2 people, but ok if there's no wind.

2 inch screws with a cup washer and a rubber grommet to hold the stuff down with, 50 screws per sheet. There were 15 sheets of steel in the pile (enough to do half the roof, waiting to be drilled all at the same time. 14 feet long and about 3 feet wide.

Sean

Hmmm...you pre-drilled your sheets? I have never done that. Have I been doing it wrong?

 

[Chilly807]

Curious how you get your roofing so square. No matter what I do I usually end up with the drip edge running up or downhill a little because I can't get that first right angle laid out to start the first edge. The other thing I do is pull each sheet up or down a smidge to make up for it. I've been tempted to put two screws in first sheet then add a few more sheets to see where the edge actually ends up, then go back and adjust first sheet before screwing it down. So far I've only used metal roofing on buildings that were already falling down, or were just for horses, so I didn't put too much effort into it. If I ever built something that nice I'd want to figure out how to get things straight.

The sheets came the exact length we needed (special order), we cut off one edge to get enough to screw down without having a rib at the very edge. We used Duchesne steel roof, TR-80 profile.

Once the first piece was cut, you just align either the vertical edge with the roof rake, or the lower edge with the drip edge on the roof. You could measure from the side of the roof and snap a line up and down the roof to go by, we didn't do that though.

Luckily our roof was almost perfectly square to begin with. According to our builder friend, if it's an older roof and not square, leave about an inch hanging over to cover up sins.

If you find it's starting to "run out" as you go along, screw the bottom edge down, then muscle the top into place. The dam* stuff is like an accordion really, and flexes a LOT.

Sean

 

[Chilly807]

Hmmm...you pre-drilled your sheets? I have never done that. Have I been doing it wrong?

Yes, we pre-drilled them. Two main reasons, one being that there was no measuring once we had the sheet on the roof, just put the screws in the holes and drive 'em home.

Second reason, although the screws will go through the steel without drilling, I find they leave a sharp curl where they go through that can cut the rubber grommet as it's tightened down.

I doubt there's any right or wrong to it, just whatever works best for you.

Sean

 

[Chilly807]

Ok, we finished the roof and the cap last night. The cap system leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion, but it is what it is.

Apparently it's not too bad, because it rained to beat the devil here today and we had no leaks.

Concrete floor slab was poured today during the deluge, I should have pics of that either tomorrow or the next day.

Sean

 

[BeezFun]

If you find it's starting to "run out" as you go along, screw the bottom edge down, then muscle to top into place. The dam* stuff is like an accordion really, and flexes a LOT.

Sean

That's a good tip. One thing I've done is cheat a little on the overlap to get back into square.

 

[BeezFun]

Second reason, although the screws will go through the steel without drilling, I find they leave a sharp curl where they go through that can cut the rubber grommet as it's tightened down.
Sean

Big ditto on that. The only other thing I've found that helps is using a scratch awl or something similar that you can hit with a hammer and start a small hole. That also stops the creation of that little curl. But predrilling also gives a much nicer look because it's straight, especially if the pitch is steep enough that you can see the screws.