What size trailer??

   / What size trailer?? #1  

Thorn Hill

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Kioti DK40 SE
Hi all, just wondering what size trailer (like length, single/dual axel, brakes), and what options are important to haul a Kioti DK40 with a Ford 150 (5.4 engine)? This would be bumper pull.

Also, about what would you expect to pay for one in decent condition?

Dimensions for the tractor are:

Length 134.2 inches
width 63.9
weight: 3,558 pounds

Thanks

Paul
 
   / What size trailer?? #2  
Step one is to know the weight of not only the tractor but loader, all add ons (filled tires), and implements. Once you have the total add trailer weight and you will know whether you need a trailer with 7000 lb or 10,000 lb capacity. My 18' trailer weighs 1900 lbs with ramps. As to length I would go for a 20' trailer if you plan to have a bush hog and loader on the tractor when you tow.
 
   / What size trailer??
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#3  
Yes, sorry, the tractor has a FEL and the tires are filled. I don't plan on hauling an implement with the tractor.
 
   / What size trailer?? #4  
if no loader, then a minimum of 16' tandem axle 'car hauler' style trailer.. I like wood decks.. and be sure to get e-brakes on both axles.

if you haul alot of implements with it.. get an 18 or 20' even.. with or without dovetail.

for sure NO smaller than 16' and tandem. those are usually 1700-2000# trailers.. etc

soundguy
 
   / What size trailer?? #5  
I pull a New Holland 3930 w/loaded tires and FEL plus implement of the day, usually a box blade on a 20 ft double 7000# axles with a Toyota Tundra 5.7. No problems at all, just make sure your trailer tires are rated for your load.
 
   / What size trailer?? #6  
Soundguy said:
if no loader, then a minimum of 16' tandem axle 'car hauler' style trailer.. I like wood decks.. and be sure to get e-brakes on both axles.

if you haul alot of implements with it.. get an 18 or 20' even.. with or without dovetail.

for sure NO smaller than 16' and tandem. those are usually 1700-2000# trailers.. etc

soundguy

I agree 100%. Make sure to drop the coin on electric brakes. You can pull a lot more than you can stop without the additional braking!

Dean
 
   / What size trailer?? #7  
My tractor has a FEL and a box blade on the back. I haul it on a 16 foot car hauler trailer with dual axles and electric brakes. My trail is made by MacLander and has pull out ramps. My tractor is a full size farm tractor and it fits just fine. The box blade hangs over a little bit but so what? I dont haul too far though because my tractor weighs 7000 lbs and is way too heavy for my trailer but it still does the job. Trailer and tractor combined put the total weight at around 9200 lbs. I pull with a Ford Superduty V-10.
 

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   / What size trailer?? #8  
sounds like a 10k or 12k trailer is in order :)

trucks fine. :)
 
   / What size trailer?? #9  
I pull a New Holland 3930 w/loaded tires and FEL plus implement of the day, usually a box blade on a 20 ft double 7000# axles with a Toyota Tundra 5.7. No problems at all, just make sure your trailer tires are rated for your load.
And people tell me my BX 23 is to much for a Toyota. :confused2:
 
   / What size trailer?? #10  
What year is the F-150?

With that tractor, loader, loaded tires plus the weight of the trailer, you will be over 7,000 lbs total. I've towed with a few F-150's up to 2005 model year and anything over 6,000 lbs is a struggle with that weak 5.4l engine. I'm sure it can be done but make sure you have the right gearing, trans cooler, oil cooler, brake setup, etc...

As for the trailer, I would say you want at least an 18ft 10k trailer.
 
   / What size trailer?? #11  
There's hauling and then there is "Hauling". How often....How far...How hilly... How much extra not planned for. Your 5.4 will soon tell you if your load is too heavy for going or for stopping. my .02 cents
 
   / What size trailer?? #12  
If it is only occasional towing and relatively flat, the 5.4 will do it. I towed 10k a few times with my 07 f150 (5.4, 3.55's IIRC). It didn't like hills much, but it did it.

I traded it for a chevy 2500 with a bigger engine and 4.10 rear end.

I have a 22' 12k equipment trailer with fold up ramps. Everything usually fits, but it isn't always easy (fel and a 7' bush hog takes some figuring...)

For you, a 20' 10k trailer should be enough. Slide in ramps will save you those few inches when you can't quite get the ramps folded up, but the fold up ramps sure are easy to use.
 
   / What size trailer?? #13  
I would recommend a 10k trailer with a 20ft bed, brakes on both axles. The extra length will allow you to balance the tractor with an implement if it is ever needed. A longer trailer will pull better than a short trailer too.

Minimum trailer would be an 18ft 10k trailer this is maybe 150#s lighter than the 20ft trailer. The maximum size trailer I would consider would be a 20ft 12k trailer. Alot would depend on what you can find used in your locale.
 
   / What size trailer?? #15  
I pull a New Holland 3930 w/loaded tires and FEL plus implement of the day, usually a box blade on a 20 ft double 7000# axles with a Toyota Tundra 5.7. No problems at all, just make sure your trailer tires are rated for your load.
According to this my 1992 Toyota PU should handle my Kubota BX23 TLB on a 16 or 18 foot trailer OK right?
 
   / What size trailer?? #16  
Don't know about others experience but my 09 f150 with 5.4 does just fine towing 6500 lbs.
 
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#17  
Thanks for all the replies, the truck is an '07 with 3.55 rear end I believe (FX4). It's rated less than the other ford models for hauling. I think 13,500 lbs. there are mountains to go over.... This would be to haul the tractor once or twice a month, about 400 miles round trip. New truck isn't an option since I just bought this one.

If I can find an 18 foot trailer/ 10,000 lb rating, that sounds like it might do the trick.

Also, I saw some trailers for sale with a Pintle hitch, is that desirable?

Thanks for the help
 
   / What size trailer?? #18  
I would stick with a ball hitch for this size trailer imo.

Don't know your situation but you might consider renting a storage unit nearby if this will reduce the need for hauling. alot cheaper than towing 400 miles round trip frequently.
 
   / What size trailer?? #19  
And people tell me my BX 23 is to much for a Toyota. :confused2:

What does a BX23 weigh? 2000 lbs?

My tractor alone is over 5000 lbs. add the FEL, loaded tires and rear implement I'd guess I'm pushing close to 8000 lbs. The Tundra can handle much more.:thumbsup: I think it will pull more than you can safely stop so make sure you have brakes on both axles.
 
   / What size trailer?? #20  
According to this my 1992 Toyota PU should handle my Kubota BX23 TLB on a 16 or 18 foot trailer OK right?

I only know what my Tundra will do. Have no idea about the Tacoma.
I suppose it depends on your suspension, gearing and engine.
 

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