Mark @ Everlast

   / Mark @ Everlast #21  
Here's the deal.
Canada, has always done their own thing. We stand behind the product. They stand behind theirs. Their marketing stragegy is different than ours, and not the same. They carry different product than we do as well. As far as confidence level....IF Miller only puts a 3 year on theirs....What does that say about theirs? I don't think it has anything to do with confidence level rather than they have different strategies. Eventually we will likely go to a standard 3 year with the option to purchase 2 additional years if wanted...all to control prices. All companies figure in the price the cost of the warranty. The Everlast Canada units cost more to the Canadians the the US, including shipping cost of operation in CA etc...so all that is factored in. Even though prices are similar in many cases...at some point you have to account for the additional cost, and factoring in warranty repair and their marketing costs, results in a change in warranty. I'd point out that the first units we sold with the 5 year warranty are now out of warranty. 3 years of 5 years, it really doesn't significantly affect the warranty repair rate on our side. It's the month to 6 months where we see the most claims. And most are in the first month as in the case with any electronic item. After that they are almost nil but there is still some cost attached to it. The 255ext is an excellent product. With the advanced pulse you'll get as much penetration on aluminum as a Dynasty 700....Go over to our site and see the thread about it from Jim who is in WA who has posted some extensive work with that unit in testing doing welds up to 3/4" and 1" single pass welds.
 
   / Mark @ Everlast #22  
One of the reasons I bought a Everlast was because of the warranty.
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   / Mark @ Everlast #23  
When I was looking for a new welder last summer, I found that Everlast Canada did not want to deal with me on the west coast. It was just not economic to ship the unit across the country for a warrantee claim at my expense so I chose a Thermal Arc 211i that I could get it repaired at several locations in the Fraser Valley if needed.
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   / Mark @ Everlast #24  
Mark do you have any statistics of how many welders are damaged in shipping? I don't think I ever told you this, but UPS crushed the feet on my PowerArc 200. No big deal a trip to the hardware store for some new feet, and the machine works flawlessly:cool2: so why cry about it. Now my V350-Pro came by truck freight, it didn't work right, local welding supply sent their outside sales rep to my house because he was a repair tech for ESAB in a previous life, he couldn't figure it out, so a trip to Seattle to the repair center, covered by warranty of course, but an hour + each way and $5.00 bridge toll!:rolleyes:
 
   / Mark @ Everlast
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#25  
If I lived anywhere close to you I'd be waiting for you every morning at your shop door. You would get so tired of seeing me, you'd go to town and get a restraining order to keep me off your property!:laughing:

You'd be more than welcome. I'd actually enjoy the company. I spend 80% of my time alone in the shop. There are times I have people drop in to see what I'm up to and they stay and watch for awhile. I don't mind as long as they don't get in my flight path :laughing:
We have one old guy that comes in just to see what I'm doing. He's a war vet and a nice guy. Sometimes we take him to dinner.

Well this Everlast thing has just plain soured for me. I had thoughts of taking one of their units and doing something really cool with it. I had a custom cart in mind that has never been done before but this warranty discrepancy has me totally turned from their product.

I just can't see why warranty is different. If my Millers craps out I don't send them away, I bring them to a warranty centre in the city and they call when it's done. Well that's what I've been told. I've never had a warranty claim on any of their units. If Everlast can't have a service centre then that's another reason not to buy in my opinion.

I think Everlast has to standardize there warranties from the two countries because it is the deciding factor for me in the consideration of me buying a unit from them. It's just a matter of wanting to be treated equally and fairly.

I guess Everlasts loss of my business will be Millers gain. Very unfortunate. :confused3:
 
   / Mark @ Everlast #26  
Comparing Miller is like apples and oranges. Nobody is questioning Miller because Miller doesn't have a different warranty for each country. They have a 3 year warranty period, no matter where you buy it. Having a longer warranty shouldn't really affect the price. Most warranty claims do appear fairly early but if the company doesn't have confidence in their products could be reflected by a shorter warranty period. If Everlast wants to compete on the N. American market, perhaps they should give Canada a little more credit. Could you imagine if cars sold in Canada had 2 years taken off the warranty compared to the US? Customers would look elsewhere. Marketing? I live in the biggest welding hub in Canada and have never seen any Everlast advertising and would have had no idea it even existed if it weren't for this site. I think they have some good machines but I think anyone would question why they were getting jipped out of 2 years of warranty.
 
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   / Mark @ Everlast #27  
I don't understand it either,:confused3: only thing different from you guys and us, is a line drawn in the dirt. And I've been over that line a few times, guess what there isn't actually a line anyway.:laughing:
 
   / Mark @ Everlast #29  
I'm in Texas so :licking: Freezer:cool2:
 

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