Gannon 88 HSD Box Scraper , Work Saver CAT 2 quick hitch, and Hydraulic Top Link

[xring100]

So i've searched via google the tractorbynet.com site for gannon HSD box scrapper reviews and separately for worksaver quick hitches with limited success.

I've already ordered a 2nd position valve for my tractor as i assume i will need to add a Hydraulic top link, I would love to add TNT but need to save some more money for the side link and 3 rd position valve.

Quick Hitch
I'll start with the work saver hitch QH-102. Does anyone here use at Cat2 Work Saver or even the cat 1 hitch? If so what are your thoughts @ $515 its over a $100 cheaper than the Land Pride QH20. I'm really sick and tired of trying to squeeze between my carry all and the rear tires to hook up the pins. I built it according to CAT2 QH dimensions. My Brush hog is QH compatible I will have to perform surgery on my Split Fire to make it work but Its such a pain to get out and adjust the stabilizers in the winter with gloves.

Box Scraper
I can find plenty of Gannon reviews for gannon rollover box scrapers and other smaller gannon box scrapers and everyone seems pretty happy.
I want a model with Hydraulic shanks and preferably replaceable end plates I don't care if i will likely never wear them out i also drilled my bucket and put a replaceable edge in it as well. The Gannon is at the top of my list .
Your feedback would be appreciated
I was also hoping that ETA would introduce a hydraulic model a little lighter duty and more affordable than the Beast

The only two models i've found that really fit my desires are:

FFC 440 HD 88" $4650 @1670 lbs
Gannon HSD 88" is $3550 @1297 lbs 31.6 Cuf

Others models i've considered are:

Land pride HR3584 Priced out more than the Gannon weighs 1119 lbs 31 Cuf but is only rated for 65 hp I'm at 85HP plus no replaceable plates. i would prefer something a little wider than my tractor. My tires squat between 85-86"
Cammond 4C4 and 4C5 weigh 1470 lbs no serviceable side plates and no dealer network that i can find in michigan price TBD

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I think that the Gannon is your best bet. When you get your additional valves, be sure to get them with the float function. Float works good with the top link for mowing and some types of grading for the side link when you get it.

 

[RDrancher]

Go with a Gannon, you can't get a better industrial box blade period.

 

[xring100]

Thanks Guys, I was leaning in that direction I'll probably put the order in soon.

Brian I did order the second valve with the float detent, when i go for the third for the side link i will do the same. my first position valve is a self canceling i don't see any use for needing one self canceling valve but i can definitely understand having to float valves. When i get a better idea of what i want to do for the top link i'll probably shoot you a PM for a quote if it turns out that the CAT 2 my local dealer stocks doesn't look like it will work out.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks Guys, I was leaning in that direction I'll probably put the order in soon.

Brian I did order the second valve with the float detent, when i go for the third for the side link i will do the same. my first position valve is a self canceling i don't see any use for needing one self canceling valve but i can definitely understand having to float valves. When i get a better idea of what i want to do for the top link i'll probably shoot you a PM for a quote if it turns out that the CAT 2 my local dealer stocks doesn't look like it will work out.

You need a cat 1-2 top link with a working length of 24"-36". I recommend a 3" dia cylinder with a 1 1/2" dia rod. A complete top link kit from me for your tractor, top link, hoses with male QD ends and flow restrictors runs $385 + shipping costs. That gives you something to compare to.

 

[94BULLITT]

The Worksaver QH looks like a Speeco style. IDK if Speeco makes it for them. I have seen some Worksaver stuff that is nice and then they make some cheaper stuff. I have a Harbor freight QH on the BX, it is a Speeco Design. I have a JD imatch on the 4240 which is a Land Pride QH. The way the imatch is designed I have better visibility for hooking up to the implements. I know my QH's are cat 1 and you are looking at a Cat 2 but the basic design is the same just heavier duty on the cat 2. I doubt you will regret buying the Landpride QH but who knows about the Worksaver. If you are buying the box blade and QH from the same dealer get them to make you a package deal. Everything Attachments has the Speeco cat 2 quick hitch for $462.

Category 2 HD Tractor quick hitch by Speeco

 

[RDrancher]

One thing I forgot to mention. Don't be afraid of a used Gannon, if you can find one for the right price. Parts are readily available from any Woods dealer.

 

[xring100]

The Worksaver QH looks like a Speeco style. IDK if Speeco makes it for them. I have seen some Worksaver stuff that is nice and then they make some cheaper stuff. I have a Harbor freight QH on the BX, it is a Speeco Design. I have a JD imatch on the 4240 which is a Land Pride QH. The way the imatch is designed I have better visibility for hooking up to the implements. I know my QH's are cat 1 and you are looking at a Cat 2 but the basic design is the same just heavier duty on the cat 2. I doubt you will regret buying the Landpride QH but who knows about the Worksaver. If you are buying the box blade and QH from the same dealer get them to make you a package deal. Everything Attachments has the Speeco cat 2 quick hitch for $462.

Category 2 HD Tractor quick hitch by Speeco

Thanks Roger,
Defintely looks very nearly identical to the QH-107HD worksaver hitch. both sites list the same weight was your speeco QH made here or in China. The WS site is claimed to be made it USA. My last run in with speeco was on their Chinese made Kinetic splitter which was pulled from production and TSC bought it back from me because 6 months after i bought it because it was such a pile of garbage. I guess they can all have issues.

The dealer claims they have sold a bunch of the Work Savers on the account of them being cheaper than the land pride with no issues, However these are primarily CAT 1's

 

[xring100]

One thing I forgot to mention. Don't be afraid of a used Gannon, if you can find one for the right price. Parts are readily available from any Woods dealer.

I've been looking at various equipment sites and auction sites for years on and off for a good heavy duty Box Scraper seems like they are always attached to a skip loader or industrial tractor. I found a couple in texas and Iowa a while ago

 

[BGigHarbor]

my LP hrl3578 box scraper is not listed by LP as QH compatible.

For now my desires for a qh are on hold partly because even if I could get my BB to work with a QH I'd want it to be cat 2, yet some of the implements I have in mind yet are cat 1 only.

fyi, my BB came from LP with the standard teeth (which aren't as tough as I expected) but turns out LP no longer sells those tips, only the wider ones. Kind of weird that one cannot buy matching replacement parts for a new $4k implement. Mixed tips not the end of the world, but it surprised me that LP ships that high end BB with tips which are laready discontinued.

 

[xring100]

my LP hrl3578 box scraper is not listed by LP as QH compatible.

For now my desires for a qh are on hold partly because even if I could get my BB to work with a QH I'd want it to be cat 2, yet some of the implements I have in mind yet are cat 1 only.

fyi, my BB came from LP with the standard teeth (which aren't as tough as I expected) but turns out LP no longer sells those tips, only the wider ones. Kind of weird that one cannot buy matching replacement parts for a new $4k implement. Mixed tips not the end of the world, but it surprised me that LP ships that high end BB with tips which are laready discontinued.

Interesting that its not QH compatable I had already kind of looked past the LP because of the Horsepower rating.

looking at the Gannon they say it is QH compatable "Faster, easier and safer hook-ups with ASAE quick-hitch compatibility" That is odd that they would ship it with something they know is going to break especially coming from land pride.

 

[BGigHarbor]

With my hrl3578 the qh issue is probably the top link and the way the hydraulics are designed. Probably solvable if someone were smarter than me...

In terms of HP, my BB itself is monster strong looking. I supposed the scarifier mounting is probably the weakest link (aside from the too soft teeth which showed wear and some breakage even in the first couple hours. I posted pic of the teeth some time ago)

 

[xring100]

I went ahead and ordered the Gannon 88" today as everyone had good things to say about them although not sure if anyone actually owns a similar model.

I also ordered the work saver QH. I hope I don't regret this decision over not getting the landpride. But the way I see it they are pretty simple and even the cheap Chinese hazard fraught models works well enough for people. (I try to avoid chinese made stuff) I'm sure the worksaver will be good enough.

Hi TripleR,
I remember you said the landpride will anchor your M8540 without much effort. Both of these boxes are within about 1 cuf of each other. If if bought the LP With my luck I would hit one of the big boulders buried in the red clay and rip a shank right of the box and landpride wouldn't warranty it because I was using to much tractor.

It's to bad landpride doesn't offer anything bigger than 84" gannon makes up to 92" in the HSD and 96" in the HXD line. Thought briefly of going to the 92"

 

[TripleR]

I went ahead and ordered the Gannon 88" today as everyone had good things to say about them although not sure if anyone actually owns a similar model.

I also ordered the work saver QH. I hope I don't regret this decision over not getting the landpride. But the way I see it they are pretty simple and even the cheap Chinese hazard fraught models works well enough for people. (I try to avoid chinese made stuff) I'm sure the worksaver will be good enough.

Hi TripleR,
I remember you said the landpride will anchor your M8540 without much effort. Both of these boxes are within about 1 cuf of each other. If if bought the LP With my luck I would hit one of the big boulders buried in the red clay and rip a shank right of the box and landpride wouldn't warranty it because I was using to much tractor.

It's to bad landpride doesn't offer anything bigger than 84" gannon makes up to 92" in the HSD and 96" in the HXD line. Thought briefly of going to the 92"

Yeah, if I had the money. I would have the HR3584 for the L5784 and a wider, heavier Gannon for the M8540, maybe even a 92". Now when we are using both tractors, I put my old BB2584 on the L5740 and HR3584 on the M8540 or the HR3584 on the L5740 and 10' drag scraper on the M8540; could get more done with two good, heavy duty box scrapers with all the hydraulics.

Sadly my wants/needs exceed my $$$$ by a significant amount.

I am sure you will be very happy with the Gannon.:thumbsup:

 

[Buppies]

Yeah, if I had the money. I would have the HR3584 for the L5784 and a wider, heavier Gannon for the M8540, maybe even a 92". Now when we are using both tractors, I put my old BB2584 on the L5740 and HR3584 on the M8540 or the HR3584 on the L5740 and 10" drag scraper on the M8540; could get more done with two good, heavy duty box scrapers with all the hydraulics.

Sadly my wants/needs exceed my $$$$ by a significant amount.

I am sure you will be very happy with the Gannon.:thumbsup:

Our wants/needs always exceed our funds for some unknown reason. Every time I read on here there is something else that I want or need. Someday will get a new box blade��

 

[Zebrafive]

You mentioned you have "self cancelling valve" This is great for grapple use. Ready to close the grapple, move the valve to detent. It closes and springs to neutral. Ready to open the grapple, move the valve to detent and it opens and springs to neutral. You do not have to keep you hand on the valve handle and can switch back to the loader joystick sooner to lift, lower, dump, or curl

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Many many chores where it is nicer, quicker, easier to have a self canceling control valve.

 

[94BULLITT]

Congrats. You will be able to get some serious work done with that box blade. The quick hitch will really nice with a hydraulic toplink.

 

[xring100]

Yeah, if I had the money. I would have the HR3584 for the L5784 and a wider, heavier Gannon for the M8540, maybe even a 92". Now when we are using both tractors, I put my old BB2584 on the L5740 and HR3584 on the M8540 or the HR3584 on the L5740 and 10' drag scraper on the M8540; could get more done with two good, heavy duty box scrapers with all the hydraulics.

Sadly my wants/needs exceed my $$$$ by a significant amount.

I am sure you will be very happy with the Gannon.:thumbsup:

Definitely hard to justify a second one when you already have one that works especially as you say have wants that exceed your $$$,$$$,$$$ My want list is quite large as well .

How well does your M8540 pull the 10' drag scraper my buddy down the road has talked about getting one to help maintain the 3/4 of a mile or so of private road he lives at the end of.

Our wants/needs always exceed our funds for some unknown reason. Every time I read on here there is something else that I want or need. Someday will get a new box blade��

Isn't that the true this forum is a great way to go broke. Lots of people here to encourage you to spend lots of money

 

[xring100]

Congrats. You will be able to get some serious work done with that box blade. The quick hitch will really nice with a hydraulic toplink.

Thanks Roger,

Thats the plan i wanted a big tractor get more done in less time. The only draw back to my plan was that the implements especially the ground engaging ones cost lots more than those for say a 50 hp tractor. I've also had a harder time finding used implements for my tractor. We have lots of tractor dealers in the area but most of the ones with a 50 mile radius don't stock more than 60 or 70 hp tractors with 30-40 hp ones being their bread and butter.

I'm really looking forward to the quick hitch and hydraulic top link. I hate wasting the 20 - 30 minutes it takes to swap out implements especially the ones without clevis style pins like my log splitter that require you to screw around with the stabilizers .