Constructing new 36x40x12 Pole barn

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Ryan03

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I will be adding a 36x40x12 pole barn to my property this spring. I am located in NE Ohio. I have already lined up my material package from Carter lumber, which consist of 6x6 corner post, 4x6 post for walls 8ft oc, 4/12 36ft trusses w/ 1ft overhangs 2ft oc, Shingle roof etc. Due to a very limited amount of spare time, i will be subbing some of it out. I will bore my own 24in dia. x 48 in deep post holes and add a concrete cookie in the bottom. I will place the poles in the holes with my machine, and would like to hire a framing crew to take it from there setting the poles, installing wall girts and header boards, sheeting corners of walls, installing trusses, roof sheeting , felt paper shingles etc. I would like to add the finishing touches myself like side sheeting, tyvec wrap, vinyle siding, overhead doors etc. Basicaly looking to get it rough framed with a completed shingle roof.

Now for my question, what would be a fair price to expect to pay to have this barn rough framed. I really have no idea and am looking for feedback to keep myself from getting hosed. I am also considering using an Amish framing crew, but have not settled on that idea. I will be purchasing all the materials myself, and paying cash for labor.
 
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I can't help but am subscribing due to a somewhat similar situation.
 
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Why are you considering shingles for the roof?

You might need to re-engineer the structure for that much dead load. Shingles are HEAVY.
 
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Why are you considering shingles for the roof?

You might need to re-engineer the structure for that much dead load. Shingles are HEAVY.

The barn has been designed with shingles and our snow loading code in mind. I would like shingles on barn because I am trying to match the barn to the house with roof, siding etc.
 
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I built two pole barns, one in Virginia in 05 and in Maine in 2012. Bottom line with concrete slab was 20K. 40x32x12. Once the 6x6"s are planted, the framing goes quickly. Siding takes a little longer Maine 2012 019 (Medium).JPGMaine 2012 021 (Medium).JPGhome pics 2010 041 (Medium).JPG. I bought all the materials, hired 3 guys to help construct. The stinkin road to the barn in Maine was only 100' yet it cost 10K. Had to remove 3' of top soil, then replace with aggregate.Wouldn't stop rainingMaine 2012 013 (Medium).JPG
 
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I believe the going rate for labor only is $3 - $4 per sq ft. for a pole type structure. That puts you somewhere around $4300 to $5800. Not sure if that includes roofing labor though.
 
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I cannot really help with the price. But what you describe sounds like a crew of 3 or 4 guys could do it in 2 days if all material is there. And if hiring it done, unless you go the amish route, they will likely want a machine to set the trusses. Like a telescoping forklift. That will add ~$300+-$400 to the bid to rent that for a day. Plus it makes it nice getting that much sheeting and shingles up to the roof vs carrying it up a ladder.

So a crew of 4 guys for 2 days, I am guessing 1500-2000 per day would be a fair guess. But thats just a guess.

But personally, I would go metal. Especially on the roof. As expensive as metal sounds, given the fact that you can ditch the sheeting, and go with 4'OC trusses, the cost would be a wash. And next time your house roof needs done, go metal there too.
 
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There's metal shingles now - looks just like asphalt (or slate) only way lighter and stronger.

My pole barn will have the traditional corrugated steel roofing, but my new house will have metal shingles.
 
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I just had this built last week
30x40x10 for $9150.00
took 2 guys 3 days
15 ft. slider and 1 man door
just using it for storage

they spread the gravel I had brought in 35 ton for free
gravel was additional $650.
 
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Call J&M Carpentry at 330-231-7236 Amish guy name of Joni. He built my Tractor House. Did a very fine job.
 
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I was getting estimates for $18-22 per sq.ft for standard pole barns with metal siding and roof, labor and materials. With board/batten wood siding and asphalt roof, we're paying $33 per sq.ft (and I will paint it myself). Prices do not include site prep or floor.
 
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Do you need permits there? When I built mine I had to have the building inspector check the pole holes that they were deep enough then inspect after the concrete pads were poured. I did a 24 X 32 with an extra 8 foot overhand on one side. After the first week I figured it wasn't big enough.
 
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Call J&M Carpentry at 330-231-7236 Amish guy name of Joni. He built my Tractor House. Did a very fine job.

Thanks for the info, I will give him a call tomorrow.
 
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Do you need permits there? When I built mine I had to have the building inspector check the pole holes that they were deep enough then inspect after the concrete pads were poured. I did a 24 X 32 with an extra 8 foot overhand on one side. After the first week I figured it wasn't big enough.

I do have to pull a building permit. The holes have to be min 48 in deep with 6 to 8 inches of concrete in bottom. Once holes are dug and concrete is poured, holes must be inspected, then framing can begin. once building is completed, then the building dept. will return to do final inspection. I wish i could afford to go bigger,but this is all that my budget will allow for. I am already planning an addition to it though lol.

I got one framing quote today, i would be responsible for site prep, building pad, post holes and concrete. The framer will set post, install wall girts, header boards, enough sheeting to stiffen building up, install trusses and paper and shingle the roof. They are figuring two days work. Rough price quoted was for $3500 to 4k. i will get a couple more to see what the consensus is.
 
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I'd go metal, if I were you, I built a wood barn and staining it has gotten old. I would also put the service door in the same side as the overhead or slider.
 
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I'd go metal, if I were you, I built a wood barn and staining it has gotten old. I would also put the service door in the same side as the overhead or slider.

I have a 24x32 metal barn already, and personaly do not care for the metal. I guess I am kinda the minority here, but I prefer a wood building. The barn will be vinyl sided so Painting and staining should not be an issue.
 
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here's mine
 

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Take your material cost add 15% multiply by 2 for the low end, multiply by 3 for the average, you must deduct the work you perform.
 
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Mrs. wanted a Patio so I gave her a third of the building 24x30 total, patio 10x30
 

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