Jim Timber
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Should've made her a gazebo instead. I wouldn't waste that much good roof on a patio. 
Constructing new 36x40x12 Pole barn
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LD1
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3500-4000 seems a bit high to me for 2 days and only doing posts and a roof structure with the builder not buying anything.
IF you figure 3 helpers and a business owner....
3 laborers @ $20/hr for 8 hours a day is ~$1000. That puts $2500-$3000 in the owners pocket. Seems steep to me for a few days work...
But that may be the norm. The only way to know what a good price is in your area is to shop around. But he is pushing the $3/sq ft mark for just setting posts and installing the roof...
IF you figure 3 helpers and a business owner....
3 laborers @ $20/hr for 8 hours a day is ~$1000. That puts $2500-$3000 in the owners pocket. Seems steep to me for a few days work...
But that may be the norm. The only way to know what a good price is in your area is to shop around. But he is pushing the $3/sq ft mark for just setting posts and installing the roof...
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The quote was around $1200 or so higher than I was guessing it would be. I will have to wait for more quotes to come in before
I can determine about what the going rate is.
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Around here unless you are hiring drunks and paying them cash under the table $20/hour is low. The local day laborer job agency is close to that for unskilled workers who can't hammer three nails without taking a smoke break... Most of whom I'd never trust on a roof.
LD1
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I believe wages are a bit different around here. And to be clear, we are talking regular old employees of a contractor and not a bunch of sub contractors right?
I was out of work for about 6 months last year. Was considering a career change into the building/carpentry trades. I decided the ~$17-$18 per hour wasnt nearly enough and ended up getting a job doing what I was doing before.
I was out of work for about 6 months last year. Was considering a career change into the building/carpentry trades. I decided the ~$17-$18 per hour wasnt nearly enough and ended up getting a job doing what I was doing before.
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Should've made her a gazebo instead. I wouldn't waste that much good roof on a patio.
I stained the whole inside too. Turned out great! Mrs very happy, bought me another tractor.:licking:
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If the contractor is a legit business enterprise (not a tail gate slammer paying cash under the table) the cost basis for employees needs to take into account payroll taxes, SSI, Medicaid, workers comp insurance etc. That's easily 1.5 times what the hourly wage of the employee, nevermind any other benefits offered to keep good employees (health insurance, paid time off etc.) Then the contractor should be adding something to cover wear and tear and maintenance on equipment, fuel, overhead, rainy day fund, vacation time, retirement and of course profit.
People often don't want to pay anything but wages even though they expect far more than just wages from their employer... I would never quote a job to just cover wages as I'd be losing money.
VH5150
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If I could shamelessly hijack this thread for a moment, can anyone advise on where to get detailed plans to build a pole barn? I've Googled this and found a few places, but the pre-made plans they sell are for sheds that are much larger than what I need. I'm looking for a 12x16 pole barn (shed) with a garage door, side entry standard door, and a few windows. I'm not an experienced builder by any stretch, so I need some ID-10-T-proof plans (ID-10-T = idiot ). I do have access to family and friends who are more experienced builders than I, so I won't go this alone.
). I do have access to family and friends who are more experienced builders than I, so I won't go this alone.
LD1
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All of that considered, I still think it is too high for just setting some posts and attaching a roof structure.
I would certainly think 2 days with 3 guys should/could do it no problems. Thats 48 man hours topps. That puts it $75-$85 per man hour. Which I think is high for the work being done.
But the only way to know for sure if its high is to shop around.
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Back in 2000, I asked a local contractor who built pole barns the same thing. I first asked for a completed price, then asked what he would charge to frame it, and get the steel roof on, me buying all materials though him. Price was $9999.99 finished, $8999.99 framed with roof. He got neither from me. I built a larger barn for about half, buying materials through a small local lumber yard.
As mentioned, you may try to find some Amish. They do good work, and are fast. They built a 30' X 40' X 10 for my Dad back in 1990, in 5-1/2 hours, stopping 45 minutes for lunch, sans the 3 OH doors Dad installed himself. Not too shabby for a crew of 7.
As mentioned, you may try to find some Amish. They do good work, and are fast. They built a 30' X 40' X 10 for my Dad back in 1990, in 5-1/2 hours, stopping 45 minutes for lunch, sans the 3 OH doors Dad installed himself. Not too shabby for a crew of 7.
