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/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #61  
The true answer is he is an argumentative poster, always choosing be a devils advocate. I'm sure he has ended up on many other members ignore list. If you want to waste your time go through his post history.

Truth, eh? Sorry for discussing facts; and I'm not arguing with anyone here, just defending my right to speak my mind, as you are, telling us what truth is- HA!:confused2: You know nothing about me, and if you don't want to read what I post by all means don't - your choice.

Let me try to explain: Your self-righteousness offends a lot of people. Of course accidents are preventable. That's not the point. This is not the time or place to insult someone, saying they don't have "the bare minimum of common sense" after they've had a serious life-threatening accident. That is offensive. In addition you wish ("should get" -how else to read?) that other are injured, killed or maimed. That too is offensive. Let me quote you again:

See above quoted section of post...

"Have you no sense of decency?"

Spare me the explanation of what your opinion is about what I said. You and the others posting about half wits and other derogatory comments are the ones who need to get a grip. Stating facts is not an insult to anyone, and I didn't cite the OP as not having any common sense, if anything he has common sense, he just didn't exercise it in this situation; as he stated he was tired and that likely tipped the scale toward the outcome = serious injury. There's no blaming him for what occurred, it isn't about fault either, but there is responsibility to be taken by the OP for his actions. His posting his errors of judgement is accomplishing that and more, as a benefit to others who might think twice before putting themselves in jeopardy of serious injury.
BTW, once again I didn't 'wish' anything on anyone. I said those who disconnect... safety devices should get what they deserve....and hopefully not end up hurting innocent bystanders....
Meaning, if one purposefully increases risks to their safety, then they shouldn't be surprised when things go bad and they get hurt. This does not apply to the OP, since he did nothing to defeat any safety devices.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #62  
Coyote, I suggest you give it a break...
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #63  
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#64  
I really appreciate everyone support and understanding. It does help a lot.
As far as coyote machines views I'm not going to take too much offense because I did know better. Everyone's free to there opinion & views and nothing will change that.
 
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This also is a good example getting complacent about it happening to you and how fast things can go wrong.
Only 2 hrs before noticed my 85 yo neighbor up the street trying to get his severely leaning Massey 250 out of a large hole with his truck by himself. It took me about a hour and a another neighbor w/ ford 5000 to get it out. I was thinking how lucky he was it didn't roll on him. He thought the hole was up 5 feet further.
Or last year next door neighbor with ford 6000 getting pinned between tree limb & ROPS in pasture while bushoging. " I've never seen him use seat belt". Before he knew it, tree branch pulled him back in seat against rops to where he couldn't reach clutch or shifter. Behind was a spinning 7' bush hog. Almost tore canopy off before he was able to free himself.
Several years ago someone I knew was getting down off stopped tractor on flat ground, slipped, fell broke his neck & died right there.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #66  
Thanks for the taking the high road Gary and being big enough to honestly tell us what happened. Most folks wouldn't be nearly so selfless!
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #67  
I really appreciate everyone support and understanding. It does help a lot.
As far as coyote machines views I'm not going to take too much offense because I did know better. Everyone's free to there opinion & views and nothing will change that.

To the OP. I meant no offence to you, in particular, or anyone else for that matter. If you found anything I wrote offensive, I apologize for that. I know you must be hurting, and your recovery will be a long and strenuous ordeal. I wish you the best of luck in having a speedy recovery, and thanks for candidly sharing your experience.

CM out.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #69  
I'm getting all misty eyed
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #70  
Gary-glad you're still here with us. Dealing with the pain isn't going to be much fun but it sure beats the alternative! I can't imagine the thoughts that must have run through your mind during or just after the accident and I'll bet seeing your family in the hospital was never sweeter. Best wishes to you and may God bless you during your recovery.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #71  
I had a similar experience last winter. The battery on my tractor died and needed to get the tractor running. The battery is under a hinged hood and I was unable to open it easily because of the canvas heater cab. I connected the positive clamp from the charger to the large terminal on the solenoid and the negative to the frame of the tractor. I'm sure everyone knows where this is going. Yes, the clamp on the large terminal moved and yes, it touched one of the small terminals and engaged the starter. Luckily the tractor was in neutral. I now installed a pigtail for a battery maintainer and keep it plugged in to solve that dangerous situation.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #72  
Glad you're still here, Gary, whadda pants filler that must have been!

A couple of people touched on something that was I think was really important. When you're tired, it doesn't matter how much you know, you're gonna forget stuff. And that's when those crappy things happen.

It would be great if everyone had a buddy with them all the time, to back them up, but it just doesn't work that way. You''re on your own an awful lot of the time, and it's hard to keep up the concentration 100% of the time.

We've all done it, knowing we're just beat, but there's only a little more to do to finish it up. Or, we're under the gun, and we've got to get that done now. But fatigue it that nasty animal that's just waiting for it's chance to take a nip at you.

Sorry you got bit, Gary. Heal quick.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #73  
I did a dumb-stupid 18 months ago. An upright freezer died about 2 months out of warranty - Frigidaire was of no help at all and repair cost made no sense. Told the wife I'd take it to the airplane hangar and use it as a winter warm box to keep things that would be damaged from freezing.

I have a high deck ex-military trailer that has a rear loading/safety stand - I wasn't using that. Picked up the freezer with the front loader and had my wife get up on the trailer to guide me as freezer blocked the view. Set the freezer down and backed up the tractor about two feet. I briefly thought about backing the tractor up several more feet to get it out of the way - I'm glad I didn't as I would probably have been killed by what happened next.

Jan said, "It's tippy", but I didn't hear her with the engine running. I turned off the tractor, jumped down, and at this point she says she repeated, "It's tippy!" - no matter, I was thinking about what I was going to do next and didn't hear a thing. Now the trailer was not hitched up, just sitting there. I jumped up on the back tailgate to help Jan lay the freezer down, and as soon as my weight hit the deck I realized that by golly it was really "tippy"! Tongue went up and I, along with the freezer, went backwards. Jan held on to the side rail and saved herself. Freezer hit the front loader bucket and stopped - could have easily flipped over and killed the tractor but it didn't - no dents, no damage.

Me? I was not quite so lucky, falling backwards onto the vertical end plate of the loader bucket, (to which I'd earlier cleverly welding on a grab hook). Bucket edge hit my about an inch from my butt's centerline and I bounced off onto the ground. Then in significant pain (that would probably have killed any normal man :c) I got up into a low crouch and made a tight left staggering circle saying (and I'm not particularly religious), "Holy Mother of God!!" (It hurt . . . a lot) - - I can hardly imagine how much worse was Gary's experience.)

I couldn't sit down for several months, ate dinner standing. After a week or two I started having leg pains and thought maybe blood clots, so decided to see a doc (hadn't before, as what are they gonna do, put you in a lower body cast?). Okay, have you ever looked in the yellow pages for a butt doc? They don't advertise I guess, probably as they are not much interested in looking at half the butts out there, and maybe not at a good portion of the other half either. I went to my regular doc . . . he said put this on, and left. Came back in and said get up on the table, roll on your side - - not easy, but I managed to comply. He took a deep breath, took a couple of steps backward and said, "%$#@ you're lucky you didn't tear youself . . . " now I *know* what he was going to say, but stopped.

I had to black racing stripes, one on each cheek! He said I'll prescribe some pain pills, which I declined. Do you know that when you have this sort of accident, everything seems like a real pain in the butt? And it takes a long long time to get better? I couldn't fly my plane or even sit in a car for more than 10 minutes for 10 months! Though I am a lot better now.

Accidents happen. So do really stupid accidents that really shouldn't, with any reasonably care, happen. Those really stupid ones are the toughest to get over mentally. They are a real pain in the butt.

Get well Gary,

Oh . . . if I'd have moved the tractor a bit further back, like I'd considered doing, I would have likely been killed, splitting my head open instead of just giving me a good kick in the butt.

bumper
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #75  
Bumperm, glad you healed up. I find if I slow down and think, I actually speed up getting the job finished.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #76  
Bumper glad your healed. Did you end up with a broken tail bone? I heard those are painful and take long to heal properly.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #77  
Glad everyone is doing OK after their accidents.

I've had my share of "oh sheet" moments and I must say I have been lucky and more specifically,

lucky. :laughing:

I have a somewhat high degree of balance and coordination that has saved me on several occasions (LUCKY).

I think what needs to be taken from this thread is to have a plan. Consider what you are doing before you start.

It's said that most auto accidents happen within a mile or so from home.

I think it's because of familiarity, perhaps that allows some day dreaming that causes an accident.

"I've sharpened this rotary blade 50 times without blocking the bush hog".

So, slow down and have a plan.

I'm gonna try. :thumbsup:
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #79  
Winter will be happening soon for a lot of us , another opportunity for DISASTERS .

Never leave the engine running to get out and check on the snow blower. Better yet, remove the key from the ignition so a helpful child or spouse doesn't turn it on while you're in the augers.
 
/ Lucky to be ALIVE!!! #80  
Really?! ... BUT, how does anyone end up working on a starter on a gear tractor, with the tractor in gear, without disconnecting the battery negative post's cable?
This kind of 'accident' is totally preventable with just the bare minimum of common sense, and safety precautions in place before doing any wrenching....
BTW, those who disconnect seat switches and similar safety devices should get what they deserve when/if things go wrong, and hopefully not end up hurting an innocent bystander in the process.

Easy Coyote. Nobody wants to shoot you either. No use beating up on the fellow. The injury experience is enough of a teacher in itself. We're all too busy with too many things on our minds and it's easy to get task saturated and miss safety steps. That's one reason why if you're in a hurry, to immediately stop doing anything until you've thought it through. It takes a lot of practice to do that; which is why it works better if you have a team to help you remember. Tough to do when it's just you in the barn.

Thinking takes training and practice; neither of which we get much of in school nowadays.
 
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