861 diesel problems

   / 861 diesel problems #81  
i used a pusher setup to put a crank pulley on one time. without an air gun i'd have never got it.
 
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#82  
This is the way I had it rigged from the bottom of the engine using a trailer hitch to span the gap.
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This is the top of the engine with my homemade cap on the other end of the rod to pull with
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And this is my cursed tractor taking it's hatred out on me again just when I think I'm almost over the toughest part.
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To their credit Davis Tractor is sending me another sleeve out in the mail today.
 
   / 861 diesel problems #83  
I am not sure I understand why the plug is smaller than the liner on reinsertion.
 
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I am not sure I understand why the plug is smaller than the liner on reinsertion.

I may have had it sitting ajar when I took the pic, but the plug is a pretty tight fit from the bottom, but the top of the sleeves has a lip that is wider than the bore of the engine when pulling in the new sleeves.
 
   / 861 diesel problems #85  
I may have had it sitting ajar when I took the pic, but the plug is a pretty tight fit from the bottom, but the top of the sleeves has a lip that is wider than the bore of the engine when pulling in the new sleeves.

So it is the same plug as you used for the removal? It certainly doesn't need to fit in the cylinder hole this time so it can be bigger to cap the complete liner lip. It looks to me from the edge of the lip towards the camera that the plug slipped inside the liner and deformed it, causing the fracture.
 
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So it is the same plug as you used for the removal? It certainly doesn't need to fit in the cylinder hole this time so it can be bigger to cap the complete liner lip. It looks to me from the edge of the lip towards the camera that the plug slipped inside the liner and deformed it, causing the fracture.

Yea, same plug. The sleeves appear to be a hair below the surface of the block, so I used the same plug to be sure to seat the sleeves properly.

#4 sleeve (first one I put back in) went about half way before I had to use my rod setup to finish pulling it in.
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#3 sleeve went all the way in using a hammer, block of wood and the aluminum cap. I did not need the puller setup on that one.
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#2 sleeve when within 2" or so before I had to finish pulling in with my threaded rod.
10-6-14_#2 sleeve installing 2.jpg

#1 did not make it half way before it cracked open.
10-6-14_#1 sleeve busts.jpg
 
   / 861 diesel problems #87  
as someone else mentioned. check that cap to see if it has not deformed out of round or it will keep breaking liners..
 
   / 861 diesel problems #88  
You might consider drilling a hole in a piece of wood and sandwich it between the liner and your cap. Once you are down flush then remove the wood and pull with your cap if the liner is recessed....Just a thought
 
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You might consider drilling a hole in a piece of wood and sandwich it between the liner and your cap. Once you are down flush then remove the wood and pull with your cap if the liner is recessed....Just a thought

That sounds like a good simple plan. I'll try that. I have more scrap wood laying around than metal. My replacement liner is supposed to arrive this afternoon as is grandson#4 after school.

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I finished cleaning the pistons yesterday and got the new 5 ring sets installed on them. I move my (un-lighted) oil pressure gauge to the center of the dash and moved the fuel gauge to the right. The new temp gauge I put in the left where the amp gauge was removed. I found a bulb for the tach and got it shining now. I looked for an illuminated oil pressure gauge online, but everything I found did not have a light in them for some reason. ????? It was easier to mess with these gauges with the sheet metal off.
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I did find a light fixture online that goes in the center of the dash below the center gauge in that 1 1/8" hole that is plugged: Ford Instrument Panel Light Assembly for Ford 8N,NAA,Jubilee,600,700,800,900 (8NN14662A)
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but lordy they want $30 for a covered light fixture and some places more than that. Guess I'll keep the plug for a while longer.
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How difficult is it to replace the seal around the center shaft in the transmission? Looks like I may have some leakage there, but I don't what to pull the tranny if I have to go in from the back side. Special tool needed?
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   / 861 diesel problems #90  
the input shaft seal used to be about 3$ many people pull it to use the nose as a clutch allign tool anyway.. don't have to pull the trans to repalce the seal.. just the input shaft.
 

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