1958 641 w/3 speed transmission and Sherman over/under unit

[gemutlich]

Thanks for confirming the cartridge style oil filter, my head was spinning between the 1004, 1010, and 1080 - all of which different sources told me were "correct", even though they are each different dimensionally, and the 1004 is the only full-flow as the other two are bypass style filters. I was leaning toward the 1004, thanks for giving me the nudge I'll grab a couple tomorrow while I'm in town. Thanks for taking the time to write all that down for me though, I'm sure it'll help someone else too down the road.

I'd figured the transmission and rear end would use something a bit thicker than the hydraulics, but I guess not huh? Question: what of the sherman over/under unit? Is it common with the xmission or does it get flushed drained and filled separately?

All else I'm up to speed on I believe, no pwr steering, wheel bearings will probably have to wait until I've hauled it down to Tennessee. The bush hog however is something I'm gonna want to look into the gearbox while still here. I'm guessing it's pretty straight-forward?

PS, that snow cab is something I don't believe I'll ever use, though it's cool to have it. Heck for all I know the canvas is ready to fall apart, all I have thusfar is that picture.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

The sherman get its oil via a sling on the inside of the transmission case. The only real way to drain it is to the split the tractor and there is a drain plug on the bottom of the sherman case

 

[Soundguy]

Thanks for confirming the cartridge style oil filter, my head was spinning between the 1004, 1010, and 1080 - all of which different sources told me were "correct", even though they are each different dimensionally, and the 1004 is the only full-flow as the other two are bypass style filters. I was leaning toward the 1004, thanks for giving me the nudge I'll grab a couple tomorrow while I'm in town. Thanks for taking the time to write all that down for me though, I'm sure it'll help someone else too down the road.

I'd figured the transmission and rear end would use something a bit thicker than the hydraulics, but I guess not huh? Question: what of the sherman over/under unit? Is it common with the xmission or does it get flushed drained and filled separately?

All else I'm up to speed on I believe, no pwr steering, wheel bearings will probably have to wait until I've hauled it down to Tennessee. The bush hog however is something I'm gonna want to look into the gearbox while still here. I'm guessing it's pretty straight-forward?

PS, that snow cab is something I don't believe I'll ever use, though it's cool to have it. Heck for all I know the canvas is ready to fall apart, all I have thusfar is that picture.

not sure about the 1080.. but a 1010 is a filter for a ford 9n, 2n 8n.

the 1004 or a ch6pl is right for a hundred series with a cartridge filter.

the later 65+ model 3 cyls with a cartridge filter took a ch14pl

The UTF fluid meeting the M2c134 spec is a decent oil.

if you really wanted to, you could run a 80w90 or 75w90 gear oil in the tranny and rear end, and utf in the hyds.. but I'd run utf in all 3, that way in case the internal sump pto shaft seal leaks and lets your hyds and diffy fluid mix a bit, it's no big deal.

sherman tranny is pumped full via slinger as mentioned, thru the front bearing ont he tranny.. the sherman takes the palce of the tranny input shaft.

 

[gemutlich]

Roger that. I was unsure about the filters and their applications, thanks for clearing that up.

Plan was to stop in at NAPA while in town this morning, that plan changed pretty darn quick when I woke up doubled over and calling for a meatwagon ride to the Hospital ER... First-timer kidney stones here. Dylauted and Morphine in large enough doses I gotta say do help take the edge off, Lol.

Spent the whole of the day there, doped up, CT scan, X-ray and blood work. Nothing passed and boy oh boy am I getting sore sitting here at Home now.

We'll see about tomorrow, it IS another day, right?

Thanks too for the good counsel on the fluids, and how the Sherman unit fits in with all this talk. Is the UTF something NAPA would have too, and if so, would 5 gallons be enough to do the whole shooting match?

I'll be taking the front plow off, after flushing the system, so I wouldn't need to take its' volume into consideration.

 

[Soundguy]

Yup, 5g is a good place to start. Napa SHOULD have some type of UTF fluid in stock. Remember.. most store counter people have no real experience anymore and if they can't look it up on their computer they usually just act stupid and make dog sounds.

So you may not get results asking for UTF, but try phrases like universal tractor fluid, transdraulic oil, etc

good luck on the stone.

 

[gemutlich]

Stopped up at NAPA earlier today, they had one 1004 filter on the shelf and this fluid. Bought 'em both and ordered two more filters for tomorrow morning. Plan is to head up to the tractor tomorrow late morning but with the heat up here in the 90's the past week A/C service calls are coming in so I might not be able to get up there for a while. Sucks, Wifey and me just really want to finish off our place here, put it on the market now that apparently the administration says the housing market's at an all-time high (right, not around here fellas), sell out of CT and get the heck back down to TN.

Here's the NAPA stuff in case anyone's wondering. Could've shopped around but man I just don't have the patience right now lol... Filter was 10.54 ea and the 5gal jug of juice was 40.49

 

[ovrszd]

You did alright. With patience I can buy 303 Hydraulic Fluid for $30 per 5 gallon.

 

[mastermind]

Excellent conversation guys. I'm looking forward to seeing the little tractor Mel. Looks like you did really well.

 

[gemutlich]

Thank-you, old friend.

 

[gemutlich]

Wasn't able to get up to the tractor today, but I did make some progress in assembling everything I think I'm going to need to accomplish what I want to do: 5 more gallons of gas, fluids and filters, compression tester, basic hand tools, drain pan and empty buckets etc...

Stooopid question, but what wrench(es) should I take with me for the drain plugs - oil pan, transmission, hydraulics, rear end? I should've paid more attention while I was there last, but was happy enough just to get her fired-up and driving under her own power lol

Looking at the weather it should clear up around here Wednesday for a couple days, will try to get up there then and have a go at things.

One last thing, which spark plug works good in this engine? Manual only says H-10 type. Not a big fan of Champion either so I'll probably lean toward the NGK or something. Thoughts?