Advice needed please Converting a Curtis snow plow pin frame to a quick attach

[George2615]

George2615:Looks good;it will be interesting how you find it works for you.A direct comparison using the same tractor and plow.Let us know.
I am in Northern NY,St.Lawrence co. and have plowed exactly one time this year.Unreal year so far,plenty of rain lately and above freezing temps.My friends in Washington State are getting "our" normal winter.

I've plowed at least 5 or 6 times so far. About average I'd guess. February seems to be when we get the most snow in this area. We'll see if that holds true.
Same warm weather and rain here. Now ground has thawed again so next snowfall will be digging in again. That just gives me more driveway and yard to fix in the spring.
Hopefully Joe will post some pics so we can help him with his set up.

 

[joesco]

I've plowed at least 5 or 6 times so far. About average I'd guess. February seems to be when we get the most snow in this area. We'll see if that holds true.
Same warm weather and rain here. Now ground has thawed again so next snowfall will be digging in again. That just gives me more driveway and yard to fix in the spring.
Hopefully Joe will post some pics so we can help him with his set up.

Here are some pics folks. Started the hydraulics today with a good friend who owns a mobile hydraulics business. He plans to tap into the power beyond and the loader valve. A $93.00 Prince 3-way, some fittings and hoses. Hope to finish the hydraulics later this week.

I will post more pics and details. Below is some pics that include the new second valve which will operate the two existing plow pistons. Here is a shared link..

Shared album - Joe Scotti - Google Photos

I will up load the photos shortly.

Thanks folks!

 

[joesco]

Here are some pics folks. Started the hydraulics today with a good friend who owns a mobile hydraulics business. He plans to tap into the power beyond and the loader valve. A $93.00 Prince 3-way, some fittings and hoses. Hope to finish the hydraulics later this week.

I will post more pics and details. Below is some pics that include the new second valve which will operate the two existing plow pistons. Here is a shared link..

Shared album - Joe Scotti - Google Photos

I will up load the photos shortly.

Thanks folks!

Here are my pictures. Suggestions on adapting the plow frame to a quick attach plate which should arrive tomorrow along with the quick attach adapter. I saw one member who fabricated a set of pin plates which I also in included as the last picture. Thoughts....

 

[joesco]

Sorry the example is the first picture. I want to thank that member for posting his setup!

 

[George2615]

I think this is what you are talking about. With this type QA you would cut the tabs off your bucket and weld onto this so you can pin it on your loader arms.

Pin On to Skid Steer Quick Attach Adapter Latch Box Kubota Bobcat Weld On QTK

Then you need a plate like this to weld onto the bucket in place of the removed tabs.

5/16" Quick Attach Loader Cut Out Universal Mount Plate skid steer bobcat kubota | eBay

 

[joesco]

I think this is what you are talking about. With this type QA you would cut the tabs off your bucket and weld onto this so you can pin it on your loader arms.

Pin On to Skid Steer Quick Attach Adapter Latch Box Kubota Bobcat Weld On QTK

Then you need a plate like this to weld onto the bucket in place of the removed tabs.

5/16" Quick Attach Loader Cut Out Universal Mount Plate skid steer bobcat kubota | eBay

George, thank you. How would you approach the plow frame?

 

[George2615]

Joe, I'd get this QA plate to use with your plow. Leave the plow frame alone and modify the QA plate like I just did in post 18.

1/4" Quick Attach Attachment Mount Plate Skidsteer Kubota Bobcat Skid Steer 14MP | eBay

Your plow A-frame can mount to the bottom of the QA plate the same as mine. You just need to add a chain to the center of the A-frame like I did.

 

[seal oil]

Fallon . The yellow plow in the photos looks to be a snowbear plow . I thought they were too light and flimsy and not strong enough to be used on a tractor . How did it work out ? Every now and then one will be for sale here but are bent out of shape . The Snow Dogg plow you have looks nice and heavy . .

My first plow mounted to a 3pt Quick Hitch welded to a SSQA plate. Toplink was chain for float & worked well. I had planned a similar setup, but ended up buying a factory SSQA plow for my new L4060 after the old plow ran off with the old tractor.

Not enough snow to use the dam plow this year yet, but I'm concerned about the loader + plow weight. I suspect I'll be putting a hinge on the bottom of my SSQA plate to get plow float rather than using loader float. Generally more weight on your wheels means better traction & steering. More weight on your blade means less traction & steering.

I suspect skid steers plows are really only meant for paved parking lots, hence the lack of float. I hear & will hopefully soon confirm myself they don't work as well on tractors & gravel.

You can see photos of my old yellow plow & new stainless one at Plow - Google Photos

 

[Fallon]

Fallon . The yellow plow in the photos looks to be a snowbear plow . I thought they were too light and flimsy and not strong enough to be used on a tractor . How did it work out ? Every now and then one will be for sale here but are bent out of shape . The Snow Dogg plow you have looks nice and heavy . .

Ya, i think i figured that out as well at one point. Think it came off a small Jeep or something & is definitely a homeowners class unit not a pro unit, but solid enough to get the job done.

It actually worked good on my L3200 (32hp, 3,500lbs + snowblower). The only time it was a bit was a bit weak was when stuck & trying to lift the front end... which generally qualifies as abuse. Despite being small it was to much plow for my machine in a foot of heavy wet snow & in the nasty 60+mph 3-4' drifts we get out here. Hence the blower. I still used the plow 90% of the time as it was a lot faster, not to mention less prone for dumping a blizzard on an open station operator.

That plow held up to 2 winters of pretty decent use at my place & covering a half dozen neighbors drives. It only left as a part of the package deal with my L3200 when I sold it to upgrade to my cabbed L4060.

Manual angle was annoying, but I was into that whole setup under $300. $100 for the plow at a garage sale & a hair over $100 for the Quick Hitch & SSQA plate (part of a package deal for some impliments off Craigslist). Couple evenings fabbing up the mounts & maybe $50 for a pile of steel I still have most of left I'm my iron rack.

 

[joe04785]

George, what color gray is that in your last picture?

 

[George2615]

I used gray primer to coat the bare metal first then rustoleum gloss gray. Was all I had on the shelf at the time.

 

[joesco]

Great, thanks George!

Here are some pics folks. Started the hydraulics today with a good friend who owns a mobile hydraulics business. He plans to tap into the power beyond and the loader valve. A $93.00 Prince 3-way, some fittings and hoses. Hope to finish the hydraulics later this week.

I will post more pics and details. Below is some pics that include the new second valve which will operate the two existing plow pistons. Here is a shared link..

Shared album - Joe Scotti - Google Photos

I will up load the photos shortly.

Thanks folks!

Here are my pics taken today. I think I am going to fab a set of pin tabs with a back plate similar to what another member did. Any other suggestions?

Joe, I'd get this QA plate to use with your plow. Leave the plow frame alone and modify the QA plate like I just did in post 18.

1/4" Quick Attach Attachment Mount Plate Skidsteer Kubota Bobcat Skid Steer 14MP | eBay

Your plow A-frame can mount to the bottom of the QA plate the same as mine. You just need to add a chain to the center of the A-frame like I did.

 

[George2615]

Joe,
Just an FYI. I bought the HD 1/2" thick QA plate (overkill) for adapting my plow. The 1/4" or 5/16" plate will work fine and is a few dollars cheaper. On the bottom of the QA plate I welded a piece of 3" x 3" x 3/8" angle. The tabs I welded on the bottom of the angle to hang the plow are 3" x 3" x 3/8" thick plate and have 3/8" diagonal gussets.

 

[joesco]

Joe,
Just an FYI. I bought the HD 1/2" thick QA plate (overkill) for adapting my plow. The 1/4" or 5/16" plate will work fine and is a few dollars cheaper. On the bottom of the QA plate I welded a piece of 3" x 3" x 3/8" angle. The tabs I welded on the bottom of the angle to hang the plow are 3" x 3" x 3/8" thick plate and have 3/8" diagonal gussets.

Much appreciated the details George. My Titan parts (QA w/tabs, (2) 5/16ths QA plates, one solid for the plow frame and a cut away plate to weld to the back of the bucket) arrive yesterday, but I'm down right now due to a nasty respiratory virus.

 

[George2615]

George2615:Looks good;it will be interesting how you find it works for you.A direct comparison using the same tractor and plow.Let us know.
I am in Northern NY,St.Lawrence co. and have plowed exactly one time this year.Unreal year so far,plenty of rain lately and above freezing temps.My friends in Washington State are getting "our" normal winter.

In the past week we had a couple of 2-3" snowfalls but ground was warm so it settled down to an inch or and I didn't bother to plow. This morning I got a chance to try the newly modified plow. Had about 6" of snow last night. Plow worked well on gravel driveways but digging up some gravel. Had to adjust the tilt a little on the paved driveways so the cutting edge was touching. Blade floated just as it would if on a truck. In the garage I initially set the loader arms so the A frame is level and adjusted the skid shoes so the cutting edge is an inch off the ground. That way when the blade is lowered on gravel drives the blade sits on the shoes and skims snow just at the gravel level of the driveway.

Joe, I hope you are feeling better. I had a bug a little lower than yours for 4 days (Fri,Sat,Sun,Mon) that kept me in the house close to the John.
Any progress on your plow mods?

 

[George2615]

Got another 6" since this morning, about 12" since last night with more on the way. Lake effect snow warning is in effect here until Sat 7PM. Could be anywhere from 18-28" depending on which way the wind comes off the lake. Plow blade / shoes are still digging in the gravel because the ground is not frozen. I guess its job security as I'll have to rake it all back come spring. Here's a couple pics.

 

[nybirdman]

Same problem if the ground is not frozen.I use my seven ft.rear blade when conditions are like they are now.
It sure does look like Central NY is going to get pounded;don't miss it;saw enough when I worked in that area for ten years(The brewery in B'ville and the nukes in Oswego).

 

[joesco]

In the past week we had a couple of 2-3" snowfalls but ground was warm so it settled down to an inch or and I didn't bother to plow. This morning I got a chance to try the newly modified plow. Had about 6" of snow last night. Plow worked well on gravel driveways but digging up some gravel. Had to adjust the tilt a little on the paved driveways so the cutting edge was touching. Blade floated just as it would if on a truck. In the garage I initially set the loader arms so the A frame is level and adjusted the skid shoes so the cutting edge is an inch off the ground. That way when the blade is lowered on gravel drives the blade sits on the shoes and skims snow just at the gravel level of the driveway.

Joe, I hope you are feeling better. I had a bug a little lower than yours for 4 days (Fri,Sat,Sun,Mon) that kept me in the house close to the John.
Any progress on your plow mods?

George,
Thanks for the kind words, week two can kick this sticking virus! No progress at all. Promise to post lots of pictures and progress notes when I start up again.

 

[aczlan]

Hopefully we get at least a sniff of that snowstorm. Less than 3 inches on the ground presently...

Aaron Z

 

[George2615]

Hopefully we get at least a sniff of that snowstorm. Less than 3 inches on the ground presently...

Aaron Z

Why didn't you say so yesterday. I could have loaded my dump trailer full and brought you a load in exchange for some cinnamon buns.