Tesla semi

[toppop52]

The causes of the lithium battery overheating problems are well known and can be avoided by proper design of the individual battery cell and the entire battery pack.

The small number of problems with lithium batteries in Tesla cars (less than 10) have resulted from damage to the battery itself by road debris and by collisions that damaged the battery itself. To date none of the Tesla car batteries have failed due to thermal runaway.

And within 3-5 years the much safer lithium battery with solid electrolyte will replace the current lithium batteries.

I understand, but that doesn’t change those on the road today. We need to admit they have a place in the world, and we need to admit their very obvious shortcomings.

 

[aczlan]

If you are at 80% rechargeable rate, shouldn’t there be a corresponding loss of driving distance?

There would be, but if you have relatively small hills it won't get pull the battery down enough to make a noticeable difference.

Aaron Z

 

[vvanders]

I understand, but that doesn稚 change those on the road today. We need to admit they have a place in the world, and we need to admit their very obvious shortcomings.

Doesn't change the fact that you can drop a match in someone's gas tank and achieve the same(if not more explosive) effect.

Like I said, point me to the data. Happy to admit it's a problem if there's evidence of it being worse than gas vehicles.

 

[Redneck in training]

Good stuff... but unless I am missing something, you are not accounting for the energy required to mine and produce heavy metals for batteries. This always seems to be the unmentioned variable. Not to mention how to deal with the waste/recycle issues. An ICE can be melted down and recycled easily. How about heavy metal batteries?

Are you a fan of nuclear energy? Why don't we have lots of miniature nuclear engines running around?

I assumed (for simplicity) that making ecar and ice car and mining and transportation of hydrocarbons to make fuel and energy have about the same environmental impact. Operation of ecar versus ice car has very diferent environmental impact. ecars are just about as recyclable as ice cars.
feel free to augment my numbers.

 

[Redneck in training]

If you are at 80% rechargeable rate, shouldn稚 there be a corresponding loss of driving distance?

Yes. That is correct statement.

 

[Egon]

To each his own, HD builds a very popular bike in many styles, it will idle all day without touching the throttle. I rode Japanese bikes for decades, if I bought a new one it would be a Harley. They羆*e just cool!

Yup, popular with the white haired crowd, idle all day and shake all day. A few years back there were some serious problems.

 

[houstonscott]

Yup, popular with the white haired crowd, idle all day and shake all day. A few years back there were some serious problems.

Yeah, Porsche designed a nice engine.

 

[toppop52]

Doesn't change the fact that you can drop a match in someone's gas tank and achieve the same(if not more explosive) effect.

Like I said, point me to the data. Happy to admit it's a problem if there's evidence of it being worse than gas vehicles.

I did post a link to the battery failure issues in accidents. And in what accident would one drop a match in the fuel tank? We are not in the age of exploding Pintos. And I didn’t say they were worse than gas vehicles, I can’t prove that so I won’t claim that, I try to keep my claims within proven reality. I am saying that battery units are not the safest things in a wreck, otherwise emergency personnel wouldn’t have special procedures for EVs. And why must it be worse than a gas vehicle to be a problem? Makes no sense.

 

[toppop52]

Yup, popular with the white haired crowd, idle all day and shake all day. A few years back there were some serious problems.

I am the white haired crowd, I rode Honda Magnas, Suzuki GSX 1100, and one Yamaha 1100, along with 7-8 smaller bikes, reliable, smooth and fast although all but the Magnas did vibrate my hands. Today, if I rode, which I haven’t in about 18 years, I’d just want big cool bike.

 

[two_bit_score]

Doesn't change the fact that you can drop a match in someone's gas tank and achieve the same(if not more explosive) effect.

Like I said, point me to the data. Happy to admit it's a problem if there's evidence of it being worse than gas vehicles.

Pretty immature thinking there vv. If you drop a match in someone's gas tank it will probably be as much your problem as theirs.


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