Buying Advice L4060 or L4760 - doing it!

[Piston]

Through some small miracle of miracles - my dealer was JUST called this afternoon (I'm EST) by the factory - and there is now a serial number for my L4760...

I'm a lock for the financing deals this quarter - it's a go - mid to late-January delivery!!!!

I just got a new Kubota 4760 + FEL + front blower for the new year!

Whoo hoo!!!

Glad it’s all working out for you! Congrats and Happy New Year, that is cause for a celebration!!!

 

[moship]

Curious, which front snowblower and attachment system (manual or automatic) did you buy? Did you also get the optional ground pressure relief system they recommend? Still trying to understand why the GPR is needed and how it works on the new L44xx series blowers. Stopped by the dealer to ask last year and they claimed to have not sold any GL60's with the new front mount blower due to cost over the previous design (L2195/L2185 blowers).

Congrats on the new tractor!

 

[fishpick]

@moship - attached is the order... You clearly know more about the options than I do


So - I can tell you although this is a long term purchase - it's like any big purchase (at least for me) - sooner or later you have to stop adding the options on because the price gets INSANE...

Originally I was thinking a L4060.. but given I'm trading in a TC45DA, I started to get worried about summer mowing thick wet grass and having the AC on and thinking "40HP is less than 45 and the AC is a drag and why didn't I go bigger" - so...

I opted for the 47 for 2 reasons... no replacement for displacement (raw HP) and the much bigger / better loader folks talked about on this thread.

SO - because I "spent my money" on HP (a factory only option) that left me with less to spend on dealer added parts like lights and hyrdo-function valve and the like...

I'm NOT adding the GPR valve - the dealer pretty much said (without saying) that's a waste. I thought about the auto attach - but it's like $1K for something that will make my life easier 2 times a year... so - that seemed stupid.

I am adding defroster windows, considering rear work lights and rear wiper - but not sure.

This tractor is only happening because my wife told me she is sick of me not clearing the driveway with the TC45 (rear blower - neck falls off) - so this is gonna be the tractor I live with for the next 20 years. I'd love to put more "stuff" on it but - it's only money... and it's also finite.

After thinking on it for a while - I AM seeing about adding a hydro top link because I think adjusting a 3pt implement from inside the cab will be a pain in the rear...

If you or anyone else has thoughts on what I should / must add that's missing - don't be shy!

 

[moship]

Thanks for supplying the snowblower info. They are becoming a very expensive option, but a front blower is so much nicer than rear.

FYI...
The rear window and corner window defogger kit is available from wholegoods and can be added later. If I understand correctly it is new glass with the heating element. L8340 is for the rear and L8381 is for the corner windows. Cost is $281 and $307 based on the pricelist from 2014 that I have. If I understand the kit correctly it comes with new glass and the switches. The wiring is already installed in the cab. It might be some labor to change out the glass, but you would have spare glass in the event it become damaged.

Might also consider the heavy duty bucket and wear edge. I have it on my L4740 and impress (strength wise) with it compare to the standard bucket.

The auto hitch snowblower option is $7,000 over the price of the Manual hitch when you also factor in the completion kit.

Might consider rear wiper L8354 ($131) to clear the rear glass.

Not certain where you live, but a block heater might be nice to have.

 

[Fallon]

FYI...
The rear window and corner window defogger kit is available from wholegoods and can be added later. If I understand correctly it is new glass with the heating element. L8340 is for the rear and L8381 is for the corner windows. Cost is $281 and $307 based on the pricelist from 2014 that I have. If I understand the kit correctly it comes with new glass and the switches. The wiring is already installed in the cab. It might be some labor to change out the glass, but you would have spare glass in the event it become damaged.

Might consider rear wiper L8354 ($131) to clear the rear glass.

Not certain where you live, but a block heater might be nice to have.

The rear defroster is a whole new window with the heat strips in it. I believe you are suppose to spec the high capacity alternator if you spec the defroster. I didn't get my origional window when I got my tractor & speced the rear defroster, others might have other experiences.

I didn't get the side defrosters so can't say for sure on them. I was under the impression they were blown air modules rather than more heat strips though.

I got a block heater with mine, but have to use it. But I have yet to use my new SSQA snow plow last winter or this winter either. Fired it up a few times in the high teens or low 20s & it took longer to fire up. Maybe double the cranking time, but we were still talking under 10 seconds. Would have plugged it in if I'd had more warning on needing to fire it up.

I have SmartThings & keep thinking about putting in a remote controlled outlet over the tractor. Have a short extension cord hanging to power the block heater & maybe a trickle charger. Kick the outlet on from the house an hour or so before going out to plow. Heck maybe put a small space heater in the cab on the same circuit so it's toasty warm when I get there too.

 

[moship]

"The rear defroster is a whole new window with the heat strips in it. I believe you are suppose to spec the high capacity alternator if you spec the defroster. I didn't get my origional window when I got my tractor & speced the rear defroster, others might have other experiences."

Didn't see a high amp alternator available for the L60's, nor did the defoggers have a footnote suggesting it was necessary. Other models (B's and M's) make it well known a higher amp alternator is needed when getting the defogger. Either it is part of the kit or there is a footnote indicating the need.

You'd only have the original glass if you order the defogger kits after purchase and installed yourself.

 

[Fallon]

"The rear defroster is a whole new window with the heat strips in it. I believe you are suppose to spec the high capacity alternator if you spec the defroster. I didn't get my origional window when I got my tractor & speced the rear defroster, others might have other experiences."

Didn't see a high amp alternator available for the L60's, nor did the defoggers have a footnote suggesting it was necessary. Other models (B's and M's) make it well known a higher amp alternator is needed when getting the defogger. Either it is part of the kit or there is a footnote indicating the need.

You'd only have the original glass if you order the defogger kits after purchase and installed yourself.

I saw that note a few places specing out my L4060 a little over a year ago. I got the big alternator partially because of it... And the fact I was planning on lots of lighting. The big alternator caused a warning light to show on the dash if you left it on for a few seconds or more, but didn't start it. Dealer told me of that issue when they delivered the machine. They finally fixed that bug when it was in the dealer for some hydraulic warranty work. Was a mild annoyance at best.

I'm sure they spec the big alternator as a precautionary measure to ensure the battery still charges with big power draws. Can probably get by without it, but likely won't charge the battery as quickly. May end up with low battery issues at some point depending on your usage patterns.

 

[moship]

Fallon, I figured you had to be correct about the alternator since you have experience. This prompted further investigation on my end. The 2014 wholegoods price list has no mention of the higher capacity alternator, but the one from 2016 does. It doesn't say how many amps it is, and the order code is L5534 and lists for $463. The defogger kits also make it clear to order the alternator with the defogger.

I apologize for the error on my part, but it was due to a faulty price list.


Is the higher current alternator the same price when purchased with the tractor versus purchasing afterwards through whole goods ($463). If it is, I'd have a tendency to purchase the standard alternator with the tractor and buy the hi capacity one through wholegoods and install myself. This standard alternator could be sold or be kept as a backup.

 

[Fallon]

Fallon, I figured you had to be correct about the alternator since you have experience. This prompted further investigation on my end. The 2014 wholegoods price list has no mention of the higher capacity alternator, but the one from 2016 does. It doesn't say how many amps it is, and the order code is L5534 and lists for $463. The defogger kits also make it clear to order the alternator with the defogger.

I apologize for the error on my part, but it was due to a faulty price list.


Is the higher current alternator the same price when purchased with the tractor versus purchasing afterwards through whole goods ($463). If it is, I'd have a tendency to purchase the standard alternator with the tractor and buy the hi capacity one through wholegoods and install myself. This standard alternator could be sold or be kept as a backup.

No worries, information changes all the time. That price sounds about what it was on my build sheet.

No clue what all was involved on the big alternator. The origional alternator harness is alledgedly unhooked (which caused the warning light). So presumably there is a new harness involved somewhere. I'd have liked to get the original alternator for some other tinkering project (along with the origional back window & non-air-ride seat), but the dealer kept them & I never bothered to ask. Not sure if they pocketed them as spares/profit or what. I recall somebody mentioning their dealer gave them the origional seat with their new air ride seat equiped machine.

Spare parts are always nice & I'm sad I missed out on some of em. But I've figured out I like working with the tractor more than working on the tractor. So when I upgraded from the L3200 to the L4060 I just bit the bullet & speced out all the toys I wanted. I'll still be building my own power SSQA ($2k option if I recall, I'm looking at under $ 300 in parts on my build). OEM & optional lights sucked so I put in my own LED bars & 2ndary power fuse/relay system.

 

[goeduck]

Through some small miracle of miracles - my dealer was JUST called this afternoon (I'm EST) by the factory - and there is now a serial number for my L4760...

I'm a lock for the financing deals this quarter - it's a go - mid to late-January delivery!!!!

I just got a new Kubota 4760 + FEL + front blower for the new year!

Whoo hoo!!!

Yes! WHOO HOO! Congratulations!!! Good choice!

 

[fishpick]

Thanks all on the well wishes on my choice!

Ended up being "Much ado about nothing" - the same incentives are available in the new year...

Yes - the defrost kit does include the HD alternator in the price - and while I could add it on myself and save a little - it's just way simpler to get things delivered the way I want them and then if there's a warranty issue - it's not my fault With all the computers on board tractors now - I'd rather have them do the flash needed to make lights not be lit... I took my 2012 Mustang last spring and (in addition to the super charger) added a instrument panel cluster and select-a-shift from a 2013 to it... I needed a Chinese knockoff of a Ford computer tool to hack the PCM and ABS to accept the new IPC and work correctly (and rewired part of the PCM harness and other questionable things)... So I'm not opposed to do that kind of stuff... but - that's also a "play thing" and if I fry something - it goes in the barn on the lift and I worry later... this tractor is sorta mandatory operating with minimal downtime (especially during snow season)... so - I have always been fine leaving the "add on components" to the dealers and I manage the fluids and filters

I'm debating the block heater... mostly because it's so **** cold right now... and I'm not worried about the engine so much as I love the notion of putting it on a remote WiFi switch - tapping an icon on my iPhone... and having cab heat almost as soon as I start it up to do the driveway a few hours later... Might see what that adds to the build.

I'm also debating the rear work lights has me adding them on after... seems like - again - for the $130 MSRP - the hassle of finding a rocker switch (thanks for the links in PM's) - installing things with different pins on the plugs, etc... it might be simpler to have them come from the factory and then later decide if I want to replace with brighter or not.
Then I figure if I do rear work lights - maybe I should also add a rear wiper...

It's so **** easy to spend more and more and more on these - and even easier when you keep telling yourself - "this tractor will be with me for the next 15-20 years" - ugh... #firstworldproblems

 

[moship]

The block heater is not listed through wholegoods (sales department) and is procured through parts. From Messick's it is part number 70000-00297 at a cost of $66.48.

I might be mistaken but I believe it's a bit of a pain to install on the larger engines as one of the pumps has to be removed. It has to go in a specific freeze plug due to coolant volume concerns.

A very good source of rocker switches with many styles, lighting options, graphics and related accessories is: OTRATTW

I've personally used them and was very satisfied with pricing, delivery and available options.

If you plan on using the FEL a great deal you may want to consider the bolt on wear bar. I was surprised by its heft and it is reversible.

Good luck with the purchase!!!

 

[fishpick]

I decided to have the dealer add the rear work lights, the rear wiper and a block heater... that was all pretty cheap - like $300 for all installed...

I also decided against the hydro toplink... its was basically $1700... and people here complain about the routing of the hoses to the rear, the thing leaking, the thing leaking down, etc...

Given that I don't do any blade work - and won't be blowing in reverse wit htis setup - a manual toplink and $1700 in my pocket seems like a fair compromise... Yes - I may have to get in and out a few more times when I hook up the tiller or the rotary cutter... but it was in a nice to have column to start with and I just can't justify it for the issues and complaints.

I figure if later on I decide I "must have" the rear remote... then I could order the kit and install myself, routing things differently per the smarter folks in the forums...

I also decided to stick with the mid-grade square back bucket - it's basically the same one I have on my TC45 that's going away and I have moved over 1000 tons of crusher run with it over the years (and unmeasurable other materials / soil) - and it looks and wears fine. Dealer said that the replaceable lip/bar version is best for folks that scrape their loader on concrete / asphalt... and that's not me. So - from that savings I might get myself a QA set of pallet forks to replace the bolt on bucket version I have... Given the 4760's loader - seems like I can lift a hellava lot more!

Thanks all for the input... now starts the REAL waiting game... nothing left to figure out... just wait... while it snows... and I have to go backwards in the elements... for a while longer. UGH!

 

[fishpick]

Good news - tractor and loader are ready for delivery
Bad news - front blower production times are was behind at the factory...

So tomorrow I’m talking with the dealer and seeing what we can do. They already offered to send the tractor and loader to me as a loaner until the blower comes in.

If I can do my trade and keep my rear blower I think I’ll do that - the part I’m not fond of is when the blower comes in - the tractor has to go back for the subframe install - and I can’t be without in the winter.

Anyhow - excited!

 

[fishpick]

I get my new Grand L 60 on Wednesday!

Big thank you to folks here who answered questions and provided feedback.

I went with the L4760 for a few reasons - top of the list was folks pointing out that from the 47 up you get the better loader. It is replacing a 2004 NH TC45DA w/o a cab - so I figured about the same HP would yield about the same capabilities (even with the A/C on inside the L's cab).

After reading people's posts I got the defogger packages, rear lights, block heater and rear wiper added in... Tires are R1's and loaded with beet juice - because it's a tractor.
No rear remotes needed at this point (I have lived my life without them) - and should I decide to add them - I can DIY them for a lot less than the dealer $1700 hydro top link I was priced!

The package also "includes" a big front mount blower - but they are way behind at the factory until maybe as far out as April - so - I'll be waiting on that and instead keeping my big rear blower that's on the TC45 until Kubota ships the front unit.

When I get it - I'll post pics and an impressions thread under Ownership

 

[riptides]

I get my new Grand L 60 on Wednesday!

Big thank you to folks here who answered questions and provided feedback.

I went with the L4760 for a few reasons - top of the list was folks pointing out that from the 47 up you get the better loader. It is replacing a 2004 NH TC45DA w/o a cab - so I figured about the same HP would yield about the same capabilities (even with the A/C on inside the L's cab).

After reading people's posts I got the defogger packages, rear lights, block heater and rear wiper added in... Tires are R1's and loaded with beet juice - because it's a tractor.
No rear remotes needed at this point (I have lived my life without them) - and should I decide to add them - I can DIY them for a lot less than the dealer $1700 hydro top link I was priced!

The package also "includes" a big front mount blower - but they are way behind at the factory until maybe as far out as April - so - I'll be waiting on that and instead keeping my big rear blower that's on the TC45 until Kubota ships the front unit.

When I get it - I'll post pics and an impressions thread under Ownership

Seems like a nicely configured machine. Good luck to you with it. Well done.

 

[wmonroe]

Congratulations, sounds like a very nice tractor.

 

[goeduck]

Congratulations! Pictures when you get it PLEASE. :thumbsup:

 

[fishpick]

How I wanted to be on the phone call I just had...

 

[goeduck]

How I wanted to be on the phone call I just had...
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It’ll be there soon and it will be worth the wait. Trust me .:drink: