Got wood?

   / Got wood? #31  
Sadly the winner is the loser in this case. If this goes long term, I wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned stick frame housing. In a lot of the newly developing asian countries everything is concrete/block/brick because they don't have a whole canada just above them to harvest wood for them. Even the telephone poles are concrete.

Surprisingly, there are currently "sand wars" as so much concrete is being made that many places in the world are running out of sand. Humans on the face of the earth are like ants on a cookie crumb. And it's not only concrete. Glass, computer chips, etc... all require sand.

We’re Running Out Of Sand… And Cities Are To Blame

Many people think, well, the desert is full of sand, or, the ocean is full of sand. Desert sand grain is too fine and it doesn't bind well, so it can't be used for concrete. Ocean sand is full of salt, and we all know what salt does in concrete.

There's a whole bunch of reasons why only specific sands can be used in concrete, and, as with all things mined from the earth, it's a finite resource.

And then there's the incredible amount of energy that's required to make cement. It has to be processed at extremely high temperatures. Some estimates say that cement production is responsible for about 8% of all carbon emissions by humans world-wide.

Environmental impact of concrete - Wikipedia

So like any consumable product, concrete, just like wood, has it's pros and cons in economic and environmental impact.

You can re-grow wood. Here's some of my effort.

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Concrete, however, lasts way longer than wood.

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   / Got wood? #34  
Sadly the winner is the loser in this case. If this goes long term, I wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned stick frame housing. In a lot of the newly developing asian countries everything is concrete/block/brick because they don't have a whole canada just above them to harvest wood for them. Even the telephone poles are concrete.

I was giving serious thought to building a house on a concrete slab. I’m almost certain I could do it cheaper than wood at this point. For the walls I think wood would still be cheaper than concrete block. A stud cost the ridiculous amount of like $6 now and OSB is $24 but a concrete block wall is expensive plus running wires and hanging drywall would be a lot harder.
 
   / Got wood? #35  
Sadly the winner is the loser in this case. If this goes long term, I wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned stick frame housing. In a lot of the newly developing asian countries everything is concrete/block/brick because they don't have a whole canada just above them to harvest wood for them. Even the telephone poles are concrete.

Even though the price of metal framing studs are up, it is a great alternative to wood; and most are made in America today. Once you guy's go metal, you'll never go back to wood.
 
   / Got wood?
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#36  
4x8 1/2 fir plywood is $31, 26 in stock. Other place has it for $35, 700 in stock.
 
   / Got wood? #37  
Surprisingly, there are currently "sand wars" as so much concrete is being made that many places in the world are running out of sand. Humans on the face of the earth are like ants on a cookie crumb. And it's not only concrete. Glass, computer chips, etc... all require sand.

Weæ±*e Running Out Of Sand And Cities Are To Blame

Many people think, well, the desert is full of sand, or, the ocean is full of sand. Desert sand grain is too fine and it doesn't bind well, so it can't be used for concrete. Ocean sand is full of salt, and we all know what salt does in concrete.

There's a whole bunch of reasons why only specific sands can be used in concrete, and, as with all things mined from the earth, it's a finite resource.

And then there's the incredible amount of energy that's required to make cement. It has to be processed at extremely high temperatures. Some estimates say that cement production is responsible for about 8% of all carbon emissions by humans world-wide.

Environmental impact of concrete - Wikipedia

So like any consumable product, concrete, just like wood, has it's pros and cons in economic and environmental impact.

You can re-grow wood. Here's some of my effort.

Concrete, however, lasts way longer than wood.

I grew up not far from Fort De Soto ...the structure (like other seaside forts) always amazed me...

Coquina - Wikipedia

Coquina - The Rock that Saved St Augustine - Castillo de San Marcos National Monument (U.S. National Park Service)
 
   / Got wood? #38  
Even though the price of metal framing studs are up, it is a great alternative to wood; and most are made in America today. Once you guy's go metal, you'll never go back to wood.

I’ve never done anything with metal studs. How does the overall price compare? Purchase price, framing labor, wiring, plumbing labor, and drywall labor?
 
   / Got wood? #40  
I’ve never done anything with metal studs. How does the overall price compare? Purchase price, framing labor, wiring, plumbing labor, and drywall labor?

As far as price goes, it depends on the gauge you are using, such as 25, 22, 20 EQ, 20 structural, 18 or 16 which is very heavy duty stuff. As far as labor, it's much quicker to build with, easier to handle, and you can do more with it in my opinion. As far as electric and plumbing, not difference at all. Holding drywall, same as wood... screw it on. Also... metal is dead nuts straight and square. framing.jpg
 

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