Which oil is better??

[Cougsfan]

What can be more subjective and opinionated than a discussion of what oil is best?

 

[Doughknob]

https://www.amsoil.com/c/gasoline-motor-oil/3/

You can see it on all of the "Signature" top tier oils.

So i drive less than 10K miles per year on any vehicle. I change my wal-mart synthetic every 10K. Therefore, my original post stands - i save the cost diff, invest it and come out ahead.....

It's the "...or 1 year, whic ever comes first" thing there.

 

[Oaktree]

So i drive less than 10K miles per year on any vehicle. I change my wal-mart synthetic every 10K. Therefore, my original post stands - i save the cost diff, invest it and come out ahead.....

It's the "...or 1 year, whic ever comes first" thing there.

I'm with you. I'll use whatever oil's on sale, and rust has claimed every vehicle I've owned way before any sort of engine trouble. Maybe severe usage might warrant an upgrade but how many of us qualify for that? No way no how am I gonna go 25k on an oil change, no matter how good some premium oil brand claims it is. As someone else noted, IMHO the likelihood of collecting from them on engine damage is nil.

yep. Go buy wally world 2 stroke oil. Mix it @100:1 run it in your favorite 2 stroke engine, and post what happens next !

Not sure I'm following this. Why would I want to mix 100:1 in the first place? A 40 or 50:1 mix only uses a couple oz 2 stroke oil per gallon that even a quart will last a long time. Even if I was a professional logger I don't see the economy here, you're saving pocket change at best and I'm a bit skeptical that you're doing the engine any good by doing so.

 

[iateyourcat]

The oil question goes around my Jeep Diesel forum a lot. After lots of numbers and tests the consensus seems to be any brand of CK-4 oil is going to be just fine.

 

[Doughknob]

yep. Go buy wally world 2 stroke oil. Mix it @100:1 run it in your favorite 2 stroke engine, and post what happens next !

Huh? What does this have to do with this thread of 4-stroke engine oil?
And 100:1? What takes that?
I do use wal-mart 2 stroke oil in my 50:1 chain saw and it works fine.
What am i missing bub?

 

[iateyourcat]

Not sure I'm following this. Why would I want to mix 100:1 in the first place? A 40 or 50:1 mix only uses a couple oz 2 stroke oil per gallon that even a quart will last a long time. Even if I was a professional logger I don't see the economy here, you're saving pocket change at best and I'm a bit skeptical that you're doing the engine any good by doing so.

Not an expert but I would guess that less oil = better combustion.

 

[Cougsfan]

Not an expert but I would guess that less oil = better combustion.

That is sort of true. Definitely cleaner combustion. With no jetting or fuel injection mapping changes, less oil means more fuel per charge and and therefore a slightly richer mixture. In the olden days (1970's or so) you would run a 20 or 30 to 1 fuel to oil mixture in a 2 stroke. These days, with better oils, better metallurgy, and more precise and consistent engine clearances, 80 to 1 isn't uncommon.

 

[Williy]

I think that it was Nick's garage said that Amsoil
and wally world synthetic oil are about the same
so why spend the extra money for Amsoil???

willy

 

[ruffdog]

I just used up the last of my ARCO Graphite oil........

 

[panamaguy]

willy

I tried ever synthetic oil I could find for my 1985 Honda golding and the best I found was Amsoil. Put 250.000 miles and was still running strong when I sold it. There could be others as good I do not know. The biggest risk is the oil filter. Saw a video years ago where a guy bought a bunch of filters and cut them open for a check on the amount of filter material and pressure release setting. From what I saw Fram filters are really good for your wheelbarrow and that's about all you would ever put them on.

 

[Doughknob]

I put 251,500 miles on a Buick using Wal-mart synthetic changed every 10,000. Engine was the best part of the car when I sold it. Rusting out everywhere, rear brakes didn't work, headlight switch didn't work. But the engine ran perfectly. I used whatever generic filters were available at Wal-mart too.

 

[kenmac]

You usually mix it 50 to 1, not 100 to 1.

why would one mix 50:1 when you can buy a better oil and mix @100:1 ?

 

[kenmac]

I'm with you. I'll use whatever oil's on sale, and rust has claimed every vehicle I've owned way before any sort of engine trouble. Maybe severe usage might warrant an upgrade but how many of us qualify for that? No way no how am I gonna go 25k on an oil change, no matter how good some premium oil brand claims it is. As someone else noted, IMHO the likelihood of collecting from them on engine damage is nil.

Not sure I'm following this. Why would I want to mix 100:1 in the first place? A 40 or 50:1 mix only uses a couple oz 2 stroke oil per gallon that even a quart will last a long time. Even if I was a professional logger I don't see the economy here, you're saving pocket change at best and I'm a bit skeptical that you're doing the engine any good by doing so.

yes, with an inferior oil, you have to mix 50:1.
A better oil allows you to mix @100:1 and offer better lubrication doing so.

But hey, I use premium synthetic in everything I own anyway.

Just do what ever works for ya !

Same as benefitting from extended oil changes

 

[kenmac]

Huh? What does this have to do with this thread of 4-stroke engine oil?
And 100:1? What takes that?
I do use wal-mart 2 stroke oil in my 50:1 chain saw and it works fine.
What am i missing bub?

I don't know, ask others that responded about using 2 stroke oil

any engine will operate great @100:1 with a good synthetic 2 cycle oil

guess that's what you're missing.... BUB

 

[kenmac]

I think that it was Nick's garage said that Amsoil
and wally world synthetic oil are about the same
so why spend the extra money for Amsoil???

willy

VOA will prove you very wrong !

 

[jyoutz]

yes, with an inferior oil, you have to mix 50:1.
A better oil allows you to mix @100:1 and offer better lubrication doing so.

But hey, I use premium synthetic in everything I own anyway.

Just do what ever works for ya !

Same as benefitting from extended oil changes

Whatever. It’s more concentrated that’s all. Makes twice as much, costs 3 times the price. As for premium synthetic, I use the same: Rotella T6. A premium synthetic that is comparable to Amsoil, but costs less.

 

[kenmac]

Whatever. It’s more concentrated that’s all.

If that's what you think makes an oil better, then, nothing more needs to be said

 

[jyoutz]

If that's what you think makes an oil better, then, nothing more needs to be said

For years, we have used 2 cycle oil in boats, chainsaws, etc… I have never seen a logger use Amsoil in chain saw fuel. In fact, I have never seen anyone use it, yet somehow this equipment lasts for years. Amsoil is simply one of the first synthetic oils. Now every brand sells them and Amsoil is nothing special, just more expensive.

 

[kenmac]

For years, we have used 2 cycle oil in boats, chainsaws, etc… I have never seen a logger use Amsoil in chain saw fuel. In fact, I have never seen anyone use it, yet somehow this equipment lasts for years. Amsoil is simply one of the first synthetic oils. Now every brand sells them and Amsoil is nothing special, just more expensive.

Ok, If that's what you believe.
You really should educate yourself on the different synthetics brands, how they are processed, etc,.
They aren't all created equal as you believe

Not much else to discuss about the matter.

 

[jyoutz]

Ok, If that's what you believe.
You really should educate yourself on the different synthetics brands, how they are processed, etc,.
They aren't all created equal as you believe

Not much else to discuss about the matter.

You Amsoil fanatics are always comical. It’s like a club or religion with you guys. I’ll stick with what the engineers who design the engines recommend. Any oil that meets their specs is good.