Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

Fire at vital tech factory could worsen global computer chip shortage

I expect supply chain issues are here long after we stop driving cars.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

With all due respect I'm not necessarily "in fear of the unknown." What I am afraid of is getting stranded 10 miles from the nearest public road and farther from the nearest person on a winter day. I would prefer to at least see that acknowledged before I trade my gas pickup for a different source of pollution... even if we are passing our problems on to another nation.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

It sounds like you're going to need a cyber truck to resolve your fear factor. With it you will not need to carry generator you'll have the ground clearance that you might need from time to time and you'll have power to haul donkeys or whatever.

 

[Agvg]

Don't you think that might change? Tow truck shows up with some type of emergency charge type thingy...

It's no problem, the tow truck just picks up the car and drops it of at the closest charge station.

And the problem is not that big, most EV owners will know the car and it's limitations.

 

[Jstpssng]

It sounds like you're going to need a cyber truck to resolve your fear factor. With it you will not need to carry generator you'll have the ground clearance that you might need from time to time and you'll have power to haul donkeys or whatever.

No, I just need to actually see some of these affordable, long range EVs which I'm told are coming... or at least get answers to some of the questions I've been asking for 2 years. Running out of fuel can be a life threatening situation, just like breaking down or getting stuck on the wrong road.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

No, I just need to actually see some of these affordable, long range EVs which I'm told are coming... or at least get answers to some of the questions I've been asking for 2 years. Running out of fuel can be a life threatening situation, just like breaking down or getting stuck on the wrong road.

It may be 10 years before EVs will cover 90% of transportation needs. People know what their transportation needs are and what works for them and everybody can just do what works best for them. I have two old diesel tractors in the shop right now trying to make them last another 40 years.

 

[Agvg]

No, I just need to actually see some of these affordable, long range EVs which I'm told are coming... or at least get answers to some of the questions I've been asking for 2 years. Running out of fuel can be a life threatening situation, just like breaking down or getting stuck on the wrong road.

Well, EVs don't cover all needs, if I was to take a road trip to Siberia a EV would be a very bad choise. But for 95% of my driving a EV would do, for most of it I could get by with a half dead Nissan Leaf.

 

[Hay Dude]

The VA snowstorm traffic jam on Sunday/Monday highlights why the downside of EVs havent been thoroughly analyzed.
Hundreds of EV cars would die and leave motorists stranded in the cold for hours, even days. Could be a serious, dangerous problem.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

30-Year Oil Industry Veteran Horrified By Millions Of Uncapped Oil Wells, Dedicated To Sealing Them

Another example of the downside of ICEVS that have not been evaluated yet because we can let the kids foot the bill.

 

[RoyJackson]

Well, EVs don't cover all needs, if I was to take a road trip to Siberia a EV would be a very bad choise. But for 95% of my driving a EV would do, for most of it I could get by with a half dead Nissan Leaf.

And that's a point captured earlier in this thread...
EV's will probably work well in urban and suburban areas...as a sole source of transportation
They won't work in rural areas as a sole means of transportation.
For me, personally, an EV would be OK for local trips. Even though I'm in a fairly rural, there's shopping close enough to use an EV

 

[Hay Dude]

It may be 10 years before EVs will cover 90% of transportation needs. People know what their transportation needs are and what works for them and everybody can just do what works best for them. I have two old diesel tractors in the shop right now trying to make them last another 40 years.

Yeah…maybe. Its sad to think of all the pollution caused from policies forcing them to be manufactured To rapidly replace ICEVs.
Then theres all the pollution from ships constantly bringing them 6000 miles across the ocean from Asia.
I bet maybe 10-20% of them will even be assembled here from mostly foreign parts and batteries.

 

[Hay Dude]

And that's a point captured earlier in this thread...
EV's will probably work well in urban and suburban areas...as a sole source of transportation
They won't work in rural areas as a sole means of transportation.
For me, personally, an EV would be OK for local trips. Even though I'm in a fairly rural, there's shopping close enough to use an EV

And the thing is, it was already tried. Electric cars were used 100 years ago in cities all over the world.
I agree thats where they would probably help the most with concentrated auto emissions, but the city charging station issue is still being ignored.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Are Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Finally—Finally!—Ready For Prime Time?

Don't call Hydrogen dead yet.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

World’s largest coal port to be 100% powered by renewable energy

So this makes coal green?

I think it is going to be a very long time before we eliminate the use of coal around the world.

 

[Hay Dude]

World’s largest coal port to be 100% powered by renewable energy

So this makes coal green?

I think it is going to be a very long time before we eliminate the use of coal around the world.

Probably will make a comeback when nations governments realize that “green” energy is so expensive the average person cant afford it.

NUKES

 

[Gale Hawkins]

https://www.oregonlive.com/business...ages-dampen-sales-and-push-prices-higher.html

I expect long-term the pandemic will have advanced the acceptance of EVS in the USA by 5 years.

Inflated of fossil fuel car prices is opening a door to the low end Japanese excuse me Chinese EV imports. I think we will know if China makes it inroads into the USA EV market by 2025.

 

[PuffyC]

Not sure if this was already mentioned but:

Hyundai Cancels Internal Combustion Engine Development ... Forever

"...the Powertrain Team has been converted to the Electrification Development Team that will delve into all things EV, including research and development for future Hyundai products. In addition, the Engine Development Center has been shuttered, and the Battery Development Center takes its place. Its mission is to focus solely on electrification from here on out..."

 

[PuffyC]

One car I've had 45+ years is a '58 Nash Metropolitan. It gets 50 mpg and it was an inexpensive grocery getter. So while husband has the Cadillac, Lincoln or Imperial at work wife could get groceries, beauty parlor, etc. A tiny second car.
I think of EVs as that. Unplug, drive 20m to work, groceries, etc. An everyday use car that's inexpensive you plug in at home. A 200 mile range is plenty.
Especially big cities they would alleviate lots of pollution, noise, etc.
I don't like mandates (this is still USA?). Choices! What best serves the individual needs. EV, hybrid, gas, diesel, etc.
Some people live in a 900 sq. ft. home, others a 6K mansion. Do we want mandates on home sizes?
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Man that looks nice! Did you do all that yourself? Restoring a classic has been on my bucket list for decades, just always seem to be lacking either money or time.

Kind of related but you wonder what the classic car scene will look like with ICE going the way of horse drawn plows. Chevy announced their electric crate motor package which will allow you to essentially plug-n-play an EV drivetrain into an older ICE powered car but with only 200hp it's not really targeted at the enthusiast market. Once there's a package like what's in the Tesla Model 3 which does 0-6 in 3 seconds with a top speed of 160mph I can see that being a real game changer.

 

[California]

30-Year Oil Industry Veteran Horrified By Millions Of Uncapped Oil Wells, Dedicated To Sealing Them

Another example of the downside of ICEVS that have not been evaluated yet because we can let the kids foot the bill.

That made me think of all the nuclear fuel rods still stored where they were used for lack of a disposal strategy. Let the kids figure that one out.

 

[airbiscuit]

Not sure if this was already mentioned but:

Hyundai Cancels Internal Combustion Engine Development ... Forever

"...the Powertrain Team has been converted to the Electrification Development Team that will delve into all things EV, including research and development for future Hyundai products. In addition, the Engine Development Center has been shuttered, and the Battery Development Center takes its place. Its mission is to focus solely on electrification from here on out..."