broom rotation direction

[Helogabals]

Hi !

Typically, as soon winter is over finally I have got my snow fight set-up done. Classic
At least I hope you will agree - my dealer have made really fancy Red on red



But there is one thing that bothers me. Rotation direction of that broom (or brush - how it's correct in English ? )

Right now it's throwing towards tractor. Shouldn't it work another way ?

Broom can be inclined by means of hydraulics. But change of rotation direction is not an easy thing - you see it's PTO driven
Tractor still is at dealer's yard, but there is no snow to test.
Those guys doesn't have a prompt answer, just saying while tractor is at their shop they can make it any direction

Which one to make it spin ? What you think ?

 

[seville009]

Check the manual; I'd think that would be a common question that would be addressed in it. I have never used one myself, so have no clue other than mechanically reversing something along the pto shaft

 

[Streetcar]

Away from tractor. If towards tractor, operator will be covered by snow and you would be trying to sweep snow you have driven over and compacted

 

[Torvy]

Broom or brush are both correct in English. Sometimes the differences are just regional.

 

[seville009]

Different sweeper, but the general concept should be the same......page 20 of this manual shows how to change the rotation direction via the gearbox.

http://www.sweepsterbrooms.com/manuals/RHFA%2051-4150.pdf

 

[LouNY]

The direction of rotation depends on which way you wish to work with the broom;
working while driving forward it needs to throw toward the tractor,
if you wish to work it while driving in reverse it needs to spin the other way.

 

[MossRoad]

The direction of rotation depends on which way you wish to work with the broom;
working while driving forward it needs to throw toward the tractor,
if you wish to work it while driving in reverse it needs to spin the other way.

I agree. It needs to be throwing the snow in front of its direction of travel, other wise it'll just be putting the snow back over its tracks.

With that said, I've never seen a broom on the back of a machine. It's always been on the front. They make a tremendous cloud of snow and slush, depending on temperatures. I sure wouldn't want it turning towards the machine at any time.

 

[oosik]

I've always seen them brushing snow AWAY from the vehicle.

 

[Helogabals]

not snow:

 

[mrmikey]

I agree, away from tractor, you'd either be white as a ghost or black as the asphalt depending an what you were trying to sweep if it were turning toward the machine. Wondering tho, how are those casters going to work while going backward, they'll be into the broom......Mike

 

[seville009]

I agree, away from tractor, you'd either be white as a ghost or black as the asphalt depending an what you were trying to sweep if it were turning toward the machine. Wondering tho, how are those casters going to work while going backward, they'll be into the broom......Mike

good point re: the caster wheels.

the video he posted shows it in operation; maybe it's meant for just those slower warm weather jobs (not for snow clean up)

 

[Captain Dirty]

Looking at the first picture I would assume (putting the ass before "u" and "me") that the blade is to angle and plow the bulk of the snow to one side and that the broom is to angle and sweep the residual snow off the road surface. Hopefully, the deflector between the brush and tractor will keep the snow, slush, and debris low. If the surface is cobblestone, the broom may clean well, however, I do not see any skid shoes or other means to "float" the blade over irregular cobblestones. Is that a rubber edge on the trip-edge plow?

 

[MossRoad]

not snow:

We'd use a blower for that.

Similar to theses...

https://buffaloturbine.com/debris-leaf-blowers/tow-behind-debris-blowers

 

[Helogabals]

We'd use a blower for that.

Similar to theses...

https://buffaloturbine.com/debris-leaf-blowers/tow-behind-debris-blowers

That is fancy
our parks & garden services use blowers on 3p & PTO driven

 

[Helogabals]

Looking at the first picture I would assume (putting the ass before "u" and "me") that the blade is to angle and plow the bulk of the snow to one side and that the broom is to angle and sweep the residual snow off the road surface. Hopefully, the deflector between the brush and tractor will keep the snow, slush, and debris low. If the surface is cobblestone, the broom may clean well, however, I do not see any skid shoes or other means to "float" the blade over irregular cobblestones. Is that a rubber edge on the trip-edge plow?

surface is flat. bricks (actually how you call them ? see pic) at yard and concrete / cement road down to house. Then I prefer to clean a little stretch of municipal asphalt either. As we live on a street with very low traffic, municipal cleaner have our street in third priority list

Edge of plow is special wear resistant polyurethane. Finns are claiming that FEL in floating will do the job just fine

But yeah, idea is like you described - not to be very aggressive with plow. In case of little, fresh, light snow even not to use plow, just broom

 

[Helogabals]

Different sweeper, but the general concept should be the same......page 20 of this manual shows how to change the rotation direction via the gearbox.

http://www.sweepsterbrooms.com/manuals/RHFA%2051-4150.pdf

Good point. But it seems that this particular gearbox have 2 exits only. That means this trick will not work.
Anyway - thanks for your inputs. I will check with that company Monday

 

[Captain Dirty]

Perhaps you will get a late snowstorm and have a chance to play with your new toy. There will be a learning process, and you will probably discover the most effective methods to clear snow through trial and error.

Do not be too concerned about the exact English word, especially concerning building materials where the same term means different things to different people. "Bricks" is correct; you could also use "paving bricks" or "pavers". (Further explanation has the potential to be unending.)

 

[RjCorazza]

@Helogabals ;
Nice setup! I would certainly not want the snow or material blowing towards the tractor. For snow it would seem to me that it would work better going in reverse, brushing away from you. I don't have a broom, but have considered one for my snow plowing business.

The plastic plow edges can be a great choice for quiet and damage free plowing. Some of my customers don't want scratch marks on their pavement, so last year I switched to front and rear UHMW Polyethylene plow edges.

 

[LouNY]

If the broom rotation is somewhat slow it might not throw snow very much,
if it's angled and rotating at a moderate speed it may do fine and not throw a lot in the air.
If I push snow with a broom it does fly much.
I would like to see it in operation.

This walk behind isn't raising a big cloud as it's turning fairly slow;

There are others who have the broom spinning quite fast and they are making quite a snow storm.

 

[Torvy]

not snow:

From that I am guessing you are in Deutschland? You can add your location to your profile. .