Infested with UTVs?

[Eagle1]

Im usually riding over 10 miles from the nearest permanent residence, I can count on one hand how many times I've ran into other riders. More frequently I have seen out of area city folks drive a freaking Prius down the middle, bottoming out on semi established trails to sight see. You think they would let me pass, nope. I think ATVs and snowmobiles start to get a bad rap cause owners start doing mods that make them louder like aftermarket exhaust which are in most areas illegal over a certain decibel, I also think some owners believe because they have 4wd with a winch and dif lok they can go anywhere, or they get so frustrated with someone driving a Prius type car on trails so they deservedly get a middle finger and dust storm . But hey they have a coexist bumper sticker and are wearing Birkenstocks, are social media gurus and have a dash cam. So ATV riders are the bad ones. I'll always help a stranded broken down ATV or snowmobiler second thoughts on a arrogant, ignorant, imho, non Leatherman wearing treehugger in a Prius. I remember a few years back my friends and I helped a guy get out of a two track with his 4x4 jeep grand Cherokee in the winter. Was he grateful I guess he offered us slightly used water bottles when we get him in firmer ground lol. Then had the arrogance to ask what we doing riding out here vs groomed marked snowmobile trails. A simple thank you would have been nice not a accusation or backwash filled water bottles. I left him with advice to carry on your way and call a recovery company next time to get you out.

Pretty soon you'll have a bad attitude, like me. I quit being nice once a group of citidiots trashed my wildlife pond and surrounding area. Never had problem with folk taking a run through there but the spend hours destroying it to where it would no hold water and over an acre of grass land was wiped out.
Fenced the whole place and put horned cattle on it now. Rebuild the pond better and bigger. The bull does a nice job keeping them at bay. He thinks every ATV brings food so comes a running.....

 

[bcp]

The 40 acres with house on my North boundary has sold to a man from Florida. I'm apprehensive about what I'll get for a neighbor. I'm hoping for the best.

He's in the news a lot.

"florida man" - Google Search

Bruce

 

[jjeff]

A ATV/ snowmobile training course is good to have for anyone in my opinion and should be included free of charge to anyone purchasing weather you use it or not is up to you. Most folks won't like this suggestion but stiffer fines will help along with posting no tresspassing and gates, and manufacturers/ dealers offering more comprehensive advice on where one can and cannot ride. Including established trails and local ordinances etc. It could however mean a drop in sales, but these things are getting very pricey and I think imo some folks buy these things with the expectation they are allowed to ride anywhere they want at the price they just paid. I feel my ideas will help educate the ignorant maybe not the arrogant like me occasionally.

 

[ovrszd]

He's in the news a lot.

"florida man" - Google Search

Bruce

I've not met him. But my large farmer friend knows him. He's buying the property to use for a hunting season lodge. He leases hunting land in various parts of the County.

I'd be happy if it was DT. We'd get along fine.

 

[jjeff]

I've not met him. But my large farmer friend knows him. He's buying the property to use for a hunting season lodge. He leases hunting land in various parts of the County.

I'd be happy if it was DT. We'd get along fine.

Careful what you wish for. Neighbors with lots of money and influence that don't like something your doing on your own property have the means to make life on your own property a living he in my limited experiences.

 

[ovrszd]

Careful what you wish for. Neighbors with lots of money and influence that don't like something your doing on your own property have the means to make life on your own property a living he in my limited experiences.

I agree. The property is grossly overpriced. If anywhere near a reasonable price my boys would have bought it. But can't blame the widow for getting all she can get.

 

[masseyrider]

Stopped a kid that was doing donuts on my just planted garden couple years ago. Took his keys and told him to walk home and get his parents.
Residential area couple miles away.
Didn't they have a s..t fit about their little man having to walk home and that I stole his machine.
Called the cops and everything.
Cop glossed it over.
I lost about $400 of plants and seeds.
At least junior had a good time.

Major question was, "what do you care, you've got lots of land?"
My response, "how would you like it if i came and plowed up your yard with my tractor and planted crops? You have a big yard"

 

[Rockbadchild]

Stopped a kid that was doing donuts on my just planted garden couple years ago. Took his keys and told him to walk home and get his parents.
Residential area couple miles away.
Didn't they have a s..t fit about their little man having to walk home and that I stole his machine.
Called the cops and everything.
Cop glossed it over.
I lost about $400 of plants and seeds.
At least junior had a good time.

Major question was, "what do you care, you've got lots of land?"
My response, "how would you like it if i came and plowed up your yard with my tractor and planted crops? You have a big yard"

wow... the arrogance and entitlement from these parent is what is wrong in today society no wonder kids have no manners.

 

[Lastkidpicked]

wow... the arrogance and entitlement from these parent is what is wrong in today society no wonder kids have no manners.

And this shows another way to look at this:

Respectful people are respectful, whether they ride UTV's or not.

Rude people are rude, whether they ride UTV's or not.

The guys in the UTV's who are respectful, quiet, and careful not to do damage are the same guys who would never litter and always return their carts at the store.

Rude people on their UTV's are rude in other aspects of life as well. They are the ones who ruin things for everybody.

 

[kthompson]

The Hardley philosophy is, the louder they are, the faster they go. Just the opposite is true, but you cannot convince a Hardley rider of that. Why a lot of communiteis around here have enacted noise ordinances and bought DB meters.. Loud pipes save lives is BS. Loud pipes here get you a ticket and a healthy fine.

I am not a motorcycle owner or rider. Two years ago bought my wife a VW dune buggy street legal and titled and tags. It had straight pipes which I did not like at all. It sits low like a sports car and a very good friend said do not remove the pipes (i did have some baffling installed that reduced it by say 40%). He said when you are driving something hard for people to see, be sure they can hear you. That is why most motorcycle riders run pipes. Makes sense to me, been more tolerant of the cycle dudes since then. But still don't like the noise. Oh, the VW dune buggy with straight pipes was as loud or louder than any Harley I have ever heard. BTW, it is for sale.

 

[Liquidsilver]

There are good and bad in every crowd.

If they are following other traffic laws I dont see the big deal?

Are they noisier than a car....sure most are. But they arent louder than a harley running down the road. Or someones hotrod.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If a farmer is allowed to run a UTV up and down the road to do "chores".....Why cant anyone? As long as they stay on their side of the road, dont impede traffic, and do it in a respectful manner?

If they were operating in a 'something close to sane' way, I would not be whining about it. If they are sideways in a turn, on the wrong side of the gravel road and force my family to swerve off the road, I'd call that "impeding" other traffic. I'm not talking about Arly maintaining the trails out there.

Trying to get a police presence out there would be difficult because it's very rural.

 

[jjeff]

Funny story kind of and grossly off topic I'll try and keep it short. My stepson was 4 or 5 parked his battery operated power wheels behind my truck I almost ran it over. So I put it in the back of my truck told him not to leave toys out or the made up character my grandmother used to use will come around and take it. My late grandmothers made up characters name was Joe Magazuk. He told his grandma and grandpa Joe Magazuk stole his power wheels anger and chaos ensued. Grandparents were ready to find the made up Joe Magazuk and have a few choice words with him. Fortunately my wife and I explained the situation in a timely manner. Stepson never left toys out again, and I never bring Joe Magazuk up at family get togethers to them. Lol.

 

[TractorTYMe]

Here in Hungry Horse/Coram area outside GNP we now have 2-3 vendors that rents these out in the toura$$ season, they run up and down forest service roads like it's a racetrack, no helmets and probably not familiar with UTV's. We have a huge area of forest service roads around Hungry Horse reservoir. But the amount of traffic since covid refugees has made me quit venturing in the woods on my atv or dual sport.

 

[jjeff]

Here in Hungry Horse/Coram area outside GNP we now have 2-3 vendors that rents these out in the toura$$ season, they run up and down forest service roads like it's a racetrack, no helmets and probably not familiar with UTV's. We have a huge area of forest service roads around Hungry Horse reservoir. But the amount of traffic since covid refugees has made me quit venturing in the woods on my atv or dual sport.

I've read about an increasing number of fatalities on sxs they unfortunately flip upside down in deeper water or get submerged occupants occasionally drowned cause they can't unbuckle in a timely manner. I've seen folks that rent these things and they make me scratch my head in bewilderment. They apparently need another warning sticker on them giving max depth you can traverse safely with an emphasis on it not being amphibious or being able to float.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I don't want to tick anybody off, but is anybody else a little tired of the side-by-sides and UTVs crowding into the formerly quiet woods and small county roads?

I'm not talking about a guy working with his UTV to carry fence posts or animal feeds... I'm talking about all the wanna be rally drivers blasting around on them like, well... closed course rally car events. We used to never see people around our quiet woods, and now sometimes day and sometimes night, it sounds like a racetrack. There have been two separate helicopter ambulance evacs, too. I'm not opposed to racetracks, but those aren't public roads. When my wife and kids and grandkids are driving down the road, and tell me repeatedly they almost got hit... I'm just getting tired of it and hoping this fad wears out.

I guess there's nothing I can do, so I guess I just wasted your time venting. Sorry. I like my dirtbikes and ATVs, but I ride them on my own place and they're not loud.

I live next to the Paul Bunyan State Forest and the humble township road going past my place is a major throughway for snowmobiles, ATVs, UTVs, and dirt bikes. 40 years ago there weren't any UTVs and nobody had an ATV and it was just myself and my friends with our motocrossers zipping around the Bunyan. Then starting in the nineties boomers got into Harleys and breaking the quiet rustle of the wind whistling through the forest's pine needles was the distant rumble of open-piped Harleys rumbling around.

Meanwhile, due to an old injury from when I broke my back in 1991, by the middle 2000s, the writing was on the wall and I knew I wouldn't be able to ride motorcycles for much longer and I finished out my motorcycling days on an AMA-spec Husqvarna SM510R Supermoto on the track. By the end of 2006, with three back surgeries under my belt, I wasn't able to ride motorcycles again.

Roll forward to the spring of 2018. As content for my YouTube channel, I had been going to salvage auctions buying wrecks, and fixing them. A 2017 Polaris RZR with a crushed roll cage and doors that would not close was up for auction. I decided the RZR had been totaled because the adjustor thought the cart's frame was bent since the doors would not close, but the frame wasn't bent. So with just 195 miles on the RZR, I got the machine from the auction and replaced the roll cage with EBay parts for less than $800 and I had a less-than-one-year-old RZR for less than $10K with 195 miles on it!

I was going to sell the RZR, but I found out that my back could tolerate riding it around and it riding it around was a lot of fun. Not as much fun as nimble motorcycles, but still fun.

Given that my small town thrives on vacationers and retired people enjoying themselves, I'm fine with the extra noise from UTVs running around and boats on the lake as I know those people are enjoying themselves just as I do myself when I'm out boating or bumming around with my UTV or boats.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I think ATVs and snowmobiles start to get a bad rap cause owners start doing mods that make them louder like aftermarket exhaust which are in most areas illegal over a certain decibel,

I like running around quickly when it is safe to do so (I often night ride for that reason) as doing so is smoother over bumps and rocks. That said, one thing I do not like about my own 100hp golf cart is the exhaust noise in the cab. If there was a quieter exhaust option I'd get it as my RZR has plenty of power for the woods and I often have passengers.

 

[5030]

Got to keep it running......

What an inanely stupid comment.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I live next to the Paul Bunyan State Forest and the humble township road going past my place is a major throughway for snowmobiles, ATVs, UTVs, and dirt bikes. 40 years ago there weren't any UTVs and nobody had an ATV and it was just myself and my friends with our motocrossers zipping around the Bunyan. Then starting in the nineties boomers got into Harleys and breaking the quiet rustle of the wind whistling through the forest's pine needles was the distant rumble of open-piped Harleys rumbling around.

Meanwhile, due to an old injury from when I broke my back in 1991, by the middle 2000s, the writing was on the wall and I knew I wouldn't be able to ride motorcycles for much longer and I finished out my motorcycling days on an AMA-spec Husqvarna SM510R Supermoto on the track. By the end of 2006, with three back surgeries under my belt, I wasn't able to ride motorcycles again.

Roll forward to the spring of 2018. As content for my YouTube channel, I had been going to salvage auctions buying wrecks, and fixing them. A 2017 Polaris RZR with a crushed roll cage and doors that would not close was up for auction. I decided the RZR had been totaled because the adjustor thought the cart's frame was bent since the doors would not close, but the frame wasn't bent. So with just 195 miles on the RZR, I got the machine from the auction and replaced the roll cage with EBay parts for less than $800 and I had a less-than-one-year-old RZR for less than $10K with 195 miles on it!

I was going to sell the RZR, but I found out that my back could tolerate riding it around and it riding it around was a lot of fun. Not as much fun as nimble motorcycles, but still fun.

Given that my small town thrives on vacationers and retired people enjoying themselves, I'm fine with the extra noise from UTVs running around and boats on the lake as I know those people are enjoying themselves just as I do myself when I'm out boating or bumming around with my UTV or boats.

I am wondering about your foot out during cornering ? is this common practice ? thought that was only a ice/dirt technique and on asphalt you had to keep in on the peg ?

 

[Rockbadchild]

What an inanely stupid comment.

they do sound like they will stall while idling tho

 

[Eagle1]

guess

What an inanely stupid comment.

I'm stupid and you are holder of all wisdom.... Plenty of HD out there that have straight pipes and were never tuned for the not having a muffler, some don't idle worth a @!#@!!