Tym vs Massey Ferguson

[Skeletor]

Hey guys I have a Massey Ferguson 1725 mb and I was like 95% sure I was gonna upgrade to a 1835m with a woods bh75 on it. Then I kinda dove into tym and they look like a great value for the money.

I do firewood in Ibc totes so I would love to be able to pick up a stacked full 275g version. I double stack them not not full with my baby 1725. At least in theory I could triple stack them with a bigger machine. Not sure if the top one could be full but I doubt it.

I’d like the hoe but it’s not something I absolutely need. I still may get one im
Not sure. Cab would be awesome but that would be more useful in the future if we ever get more property.

Any suggestions? I have this week off so I’m probably gonna go check a few out. My Massey dealer is kind of a dink so if I get another Massey it would be through Bruno’s. There is a tym/ ls dealer very close by.

 

[2manyrocks]

Dealership service is very important if you run into a problem covered by the factory warranty.

 

[thclimer]

You might want to refer to this thread:

CLANGING in the front diff of brand new T494....what the heck

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m sure TYM is a fine machine, but I’d go MF for the AGCO network.

 

[EddieWalker]

I never went to a TYM dealer when I was looking for a new tractor last year. There is a pretty big tractor auction place close to me that has dozens and dozens of used tractors on there lot that you can climb into and look at any time you want. There was only one TYM there when I was looking at different used brands, and it was in pretty bad shape. I think it only had a couple hundred hours on it, but it looked like it had thousands. This was only one example, but it was enough for me to not look at the brand any more. I saw the same in some other brands too, which I decided to avoid. Massey, Kubota, Deere, Case and New Holland where all in great shape for their hours. Since I wanted to avoid DEF, the list got even smaller until I went with Massey.

When buying my Massey, I talked to the closest dealer first, but it wasn't a good experience. The next closest didn't even have any tractors, and the third one was just opening up his business and super motivated to build it up. I bought from him. There where two more even farther away that I was going to go to next, but I never did since I liked the new guy.

 

[Torvy]

You might want to refer to this thread:

CLANGING in the front diff of brand new T494....what the heck

Yup. Definitely look into the one-off issues with every brand. Be sure to note that the dealer is often the root of the problem. Sometimes it is that they are not good at final assembly. Sometimes it is that they are small potatoes and don't move the needle with the OEM. Applies to all OEMs, big and small.

I've got the turbo version of the exact same tractor and zero issues.

 

[thclimer]

Yup. Definitely look into the one-off issues with every brand. Be sure to note that the dealer is often the root of the problem. Sometimes it is that they are not good at final assembly. Sometimes it is that they are small potatoes and don't move the needle with the OEM. Applies to all OEMs, big and small.

I've got the turbo version of the exact same tractor and zero issues.

Very true, all manufactures can have issues and so can dealers.

The tread that I referenced is a pretty long thread over a significant timeframe.

However, if I have the details correct and followed the sequence, it is my understanding in this case it seems like they have found a different dealer, not the one who sold the unit and this new dealer is trying to help. The issue now seems to be with TYM as a manufacture not supporting their product. Again, if all this is correct, it is fortunate that you have not had any problems as even if your dealer wanted to help you there seems to be lack of support from the manufacture TYM.

 

[Skeletor]

I can’t badmouth my Massey at all I’ve really totally overworked it the entire time I’ve owned it. I’ve had it do the work of a much bigger machine. My only experience with agco personally has been good. I called to get my payoff and asked about the backhoe recall. The lady didn’t know the details but said someone would call me. I thought yeah sure ok. But a guy called me the next day and was very helpful. He even answered all my questions I had about the 1835 and my dpf concerns.

I just wanna make sure the 1835 has can do what I want it to do. It will probably be ok but I’d hate to spend the money and not be happy with the outcome.

When I bought the 1725 I wasn’t doing the tote thing so that didn’t come into play. After using the totes I’m not going back haha.

 

[Theof]

Dealership service is very important if you run into a problem covered by the factory warranty.

 

[Torvy]

Very true, all manufactures can have issues and so can dealers.

The tread that I referenced is a pretty long thread over a significant timeframe.

However, if I have the details correct and followed the sequence, it is my understanding in this case it seems like they have found a different dealer, not the one who sold the unit and this new dealer is trying to help. The issue now seems to be with TYM as a manufacture not supporting their product. Again, if all this is correct, it is fortunate that you have not had any problems as even if your dealer wanted to help you there seems to be lack of support from the manufacture TYM.

Not really lack of support, just low inventory for a part he should not really need. The original dealer messed up the tractor before he bought it. OP found some guy on FB that claimed a similar issue was fixed by an alternate part. OP insisted on that part. New dealer agreed to help. TYM sourcing the part, but it is not a standard part for that model and literally thousands of these are in operation without this problem or a need for the part.

I've probably followed closer than anyone as I recommended it to the OP and have family near him. I also own the same tractor and if there was a problem I wanted to know. I feel horrible, but the root cause was the Iowa dealer that sold him a broken unit.

 

[aesanders]

From what you posted, I would consider the Massey 2850e model. You sound like primary usage will be loader work, and fairly heavy. The larger 2800 series will handle those no problem and lift higher to boot. The 1800M are very high quality and probably do what you need, but the added capability of the next class up will proabaly suit you well and not that much more. Compare 2800 series Massey to TYM 494 and 574. Wasn’t sure what model TYM you are looking at. Kioti NS is another to check out.

TYM will get you most bang for buck, but the other makes will likely have better support with better parts availability, especially Massey. TYM has some ongoing growing pains. Will probably work it out, but not as of yet.

 

[aesanders]

Not really lack of support, just low inventory for a part he should not really need. The original dealer messed up the tractor before he bought it. OP found some guy on FB that claimed a similar issue was fixed by an alternate part. OP insisted on that part. New dealer agreed to help. TYM sourcing the part, but it is not a standard part for that model and literally thousands of these are in operation without this problem or a need for the part.

I've probably followed closer than anyone as I recommended it to the OP and have family near him. I also own the same tractor and if there was a problem I wanted to know. I feel horrible, but the root cause was the Iowa dealer that sold him a broken unit.

Well, it was a brand new machine. TYM should be stepping up to the plate, not so much the dealer. Sounds like a crappy dealer (the original selling dealer), but still TYM has a responsibility to sell a brand new working machine, and not something that will be not usable for months. Surely, they have a tractor they can rob the part from, but just not willing to lose a sale. So far, 2 dealers have not been able to supply a working machine.

 

[caleb90]

Tym must be getting better at there customer service. Last time i had to deal with tym hq i couldnt get ahold of them. I just called them about a question with my backhoe and i got right through to some one. Sent them pics via email, now lets see how long it takes for a reply

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

Thread Title, "TYM vs Massey Ferguson".

Massey Ferguson wins for me!

Though I would give TYM a good consideration based on the TYM dealer in your area. I haven't seen "Daves Tractor" on here for a while. He is one of the larger Branson dealers (now TYM by default). But he can be quoted as if a dealer doesn't stock parts, then they shouldn't be a dealer.
I would hunt for a large volume TYM dealer to purchase from, if I was to go that route.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Isn't this the TYM that showed up NEW with 20 hours on it, or something of that nature? Dealer claimed it was "dyno" time?

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

Isn't this the TYM that showed up NEW with 20 hours on it, or something of that nature? Dealer claimed it was "dyno" time?

Pretty sure you are correct on the dealer saying it was Dyno time, I recall 13 hours but I could be wrong on that.

 

[Peter 315]

Pretty sure you are correct on the dealer saying it was Dyno time, I recall 13 hours but I could be wrong on that.

Maybe the dealer meant DEMO time...

 

[Skeletor]

Well I went to the tym/ls dealer and they were closed. I still looked around a bit and they had some ls tractors mt 225e Mt 340 mt 357 and only a tym 3515h. Then I went to the Massey dealer. I didn’t realize the 1835e was so much smaller than the others. It wasn’t in the running cuse of the lower lift capacity anyway.

So if I go Massey it’s gonna be the 1835m or the 2850e. The 2850 can lift like an extra thousand pounds which is my main concern. The treadle peddle is a negative so is the loader valve up on the loader. But and extra 1k lbs is an extra 1k lbs……… maybe I’ll go look at the ls and tym guy tomorrow.

 

[tacticalturnip]

The 3515h is a legacy Branson model, and it's an especially nice machine. One could argue it's a little crude in fit and finish to the Massey M's, but they're absolute tanks. Heavy, well built; stout.

On the other hand, those Iseki (right?) built Masseys are excellent machines in their own right; the E models are a little crude, but the M are world class.

 

[TractorTYMe]

MF makes awesome tractors no doubt, good luck on your hunt.