TYM T494H or Yanmar YT347

[2515R Dude]

You can buy anything as long as it is not TYM!!!!!!!!!!! If i was smart then as i'm now, i would not go closer than 10 miles to the TYM/Branson dealership! Not enough it is POS in terms of quality, the parts are 5-10 times more expensive(and they are proud of it) but if it is not enough, the biggest problem you can buy parts at the dealership only!
The current owner of TYM tractor(formerly Branson) !

 

[flyingace43]

I am looking between these two tractors.

I have about 35 acres in SW Colorado at 7500' elevation. Forested land a bit rugged with Ponderosa and pinyon/juniper. Will be mainly using it for brush hogging gambel oak, 700' driveway maintenance, maybe some snow moving...

I like the idea of less electronics in the kukje motor but like the more established yanmar...Any issues with either of these? Pros and cons? Both dealers by the property are very small and non-dedicated(meaning they do other type business other than tractors).

Would like to hear from owners of either, or even owners of other tractors of these manufacturers.

If anyone has owned or used both these machines even better.

Thanks

Well I have owned 3 JD tractors and 1 case and now I have the Yanmar YT347 with a cab and it seems that the TYM is a nice machine but you need to remember that for a long time Yanmar built most of the John Deere compact tractors so they are pretty good at building tractors. As far as the IHMT is concerned it is by far the best transmission out there and overall the Yanmar is probably the best tractor available in that size and I am lucky to have a great dealer about 30 miles away. Also just had a friend buy a YT347 open station a few months ago and he is very happy with his also. Yanmar not only builds engines for Deere and TYM the new LS tractors are also using Yanmar engines so I highly recommend buying the Yanmar.

 

[2manyrocks]

If you are thinking about buying a specific model, you can use the TBN search feature to find other discussions about that model. Sometimes there have been pretty good discussions about particular tractors in the past that have valuable opinions, but members either don't have the time to respond to new threads or don't post for whatever reason.

Have no personal experience with TYM or the particular Yanmar you are considering, but I've owned a Yanmar 226d for a very long time that has been a very reliable machine.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I've only had my Branson 4820 for two years... But so far it does all it's supposed to. It basically runs at 2500 RPM, 90% of its life doing tillage.

 

[rScotty]

I really like the YT series and may in fact buy one but One thing I don't like is that they are normally aspirated ( as is the T494 from what I could find). I am only at 3500 ft and would probably see a 10% power loss, at 7000 it would likely be double)
A turbo loses about 1% per thousand, NA about 3%.
If my numbers are wrong, someone please correct me.

I also would look at the ex-Branson tractors- the xx20 series. Along with the build they have a 4 range transmission which folks seem to love. They are supposed to be a tiny bit more austere. I have read that a regen helps in cold climates.The comparable one to the T494 is the 4820, which is also NA. Moving up to the 5520 gets you a turbo.

Just for fun I did some quick and dirty math using 1%/1000 loss and 3%/1000 loss.

T494 pto hp 37.2 becomes 29 at 7000ft
4820 pto hp 38.4 becomes 30 at 7000ft
5520 pto hp 44 becomes 41 at 7000ft

I live at 7000+ feet and have had tractors for 50 years. There is a lot of misinformation about turbos.
Right now some of our tractors and cars have turbos and others don't .

Yes, those numbers are real, but they don't tell you the real story because those are max HP at wide open throttle. Most of us don't run any machine wide open.

So if you are working at anything less than wide open throttle, the the other way to increase HP at high altitude is to just increase the RPMs you are working at. Open the throttle 10% for the same result without all the noise, wear, and inefficiency.

Frankly, I rarely work my tractor with the throttle wide open anyway. Very rarely does a job absolutely require full throttle to do. About the only time I really use full throttle is when I'm in top road gear on the paved road, going to town for fuel, come to a long uphill, and am too lazy to downshift. Tractors tend to be overgeared in road gear anyway. If I have to use full throttle for working, I should have bought more engine displacement hp to start with.

So I'd say buy enough HP that you have HP & throttle to spare, and then whether the engine makes that spare HP with a turbo or through extra displacement or by a combination of the two doesn't matter.

rScotty

 

[aaarneson]

Thank you for all of the input...it is helpful. I think now I am leaning towards the Yanmar.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Thank you for all of the input...it is helpful. I think now I am leaning towards the Yanmar.

They are solid units.

 

[aaarneson]

You can buy anything as long as it is not TYM!!!!!!!!!!! If i was smart then as i'm now, i would not go closer than 10 miles to the TYM/Branson dealership! Not enough it is POS in terms of quality, the parts are 5-10 times more expensive(and they are proud of it) but if it is not enough, the biggest problem you can buy parts at the dealership only!
The current owner of TYM tractor(formerly Branson) !

Wow...That is too bad. That is what I want to avoid.

 

[Canuckz]

I looked at both and I went with the Yanmar YT359c. I would have chose the YT347 but they sold the last cab one so I got the only YT359c my dealer has left. I absolutely love the I-HMT transmission and have zero regrets about my choice. I spent months and months looking at different tractors. I am very happy with my decision and I will probably get a YT235 open station in the future as well.

 

[JeepHead]

I stopped and looked at two YT347's this weekend and they are a very solid looking tractor.