Korean tractor dilemma

[caleb90]

So, I did just double back to the very top; and it is possible that "oil pan leaks" and HST pump leaks; maybe if small; we just have too high of an expectation for agricultural equipment. They leak. At 5 hours, there will be a drop of oil if you look for it hard enough. I'm Not saying thats it; but Kubotas leak fluids, John Deeres leak fluids.

If it was a small drip, say a quart every 50 hours, I could see the dealer kinda "back burnering" you and your issue.

The oil pan i was living with, decided i would fix it down the road. The hst pump leaking was a different story. Thats what drove me to take it in. Yes equipment leaks but at 50hrs? Come on now. 500hr maybe.

 

[paulsharvey]

The oil pan i was living with, decided i would fix it down the road. The hst pump leaking was a different story. Thats what drove me to take it in. Yes equipment leaks but at 50hrs? Come on now. 500hr maybe.

Ok, I get that it "shouldn't"; but believe it or not, I'm atleast trying to help somewhat. Poll Kubota, John Deere, Yanmar, and Massey guys with sub 100 hours and ask how many don't have a couple Minor drips. It might not even be drips, but dust kinda sticks to the front wheel seal area, or you get a bit of rainbow oil slick when washing.

I actually would hate to hear of a 3rd lemon, and it's a Yanmar/Kubota, and your disappointed again.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Is your Santa Fe the 4 or 6 cylinder? In our generation the 4 cylinder did have some known issues so I opted for the very well rated 6. We've been extremely happy with it, and when it does reach the end of it's life- which will no doubt be eventually rust- we really like the Telluride.

 

[Dftodd]

I don’t think there’s a bad tractor brand made today. All of them have their good and a few bad models or features. I chose Kubota because they have a local dealer that provides service and stocks parts. And I don’t like the local Deere or Mahindra dealer’s operations. There are no other colors within hundreds of miles.

We have pretty much all of them in our area. KIOTI, Mahindra, Deere, Kubota, and Bad Boy, Yanmar and New Holland were all pretty high and comparable in price.

Mahindra, Bad Boy, and New Holland are out of the way for me.

I don't get along with the service managers at the local Deere and Kubota dealers.

Both are owned by conglomerates, so service suffered as well as prices going way up.

The local Massey Furgeson dealer is still a mom and pop shop with two stores. They also sell LS and Bob Cat equipment including tractors.

Their prices were quite a bit lower then the others listed above. So that helped me make the decision to go with the Massey 1825E that we purchased. I've had experience with the Iseki diesel in it through work. So that helped seal the deal.

Tym went out of buisiness locally. By locally, the closest dealer was 60 miles south west of us.

I did see a small TYM dealer about 1.5 hours north. But their lot consisted of 6 tractors and a really tiny building, so it doesn't instill much confidence.

Locally for Large tractors, people are going with Massey and New Holland.

Neighbor behind us has a 25hp JD scut they seem to be happy with.

I've seen one LS tractor locally.

 

[Mud2Money]

Dealers want to sell you the parts. On my equipment at work, some of the hydraulic motors are pretty standard, and there is a dealer in Little Rock that handles that brand.

So if a seal goes out, we just order a new seal for $20 versus $1500 to replace it.

Yep I came from wrenching on 7 figure Cnc machines. We rebuilt it all , spindles, hydraulic pumps , coolant pumps, gear boxes. Nothing is non serviceable to the right mind.

 

[Dftodd]

And the 2 LS dealers near me keep less than 10 tractors on the lot.

Our Local LS dealer had a bunch in crates, but only a few pit together and for show in the yard. But because of the interest rates, they only have sold a few to cash customers.

They sell Massey Furgeson as well, so they get 0% for the Massey versus 8% for the LS models.

 

[Dftodd]

Yep I came from wrenching on 7 figure Cnc machines. We rebuilt it all , spindles, hydraulic pumps , coolant pumps, gear boxes. Nothing is non serviceable to the right mind.

I had a similar discussion with the service manager at a repair shop I deal with. They mainly work on semis, but are also the local Deutz parts supplier and repair shop.

He's got an old guy that is their small engine repairman that is a fixer instead of a swapper.

What kicked that conversation off was a discussion about Deutz starters. They come with a deutz starter solenoid bolted to the mounting face.

Deutz will not sell that solenoid. They require to purchase a new starter if the solenoid goes bad.

I've had to go this route on a couple of units because they are still under warranty. I had the solenoid go out on deutz engine last week that was out of warranty.

I ripped that solenoid off, bolted a $20 generic three pin solenoid to the frame and ran with it

 

[IndyIan]

And the 2 LS dealers near me keep less than 10 tractors on the lot.

They have only have like 4-5 different tractor lines, why have 2-3-4 million in inventory sitting there? Someone has to pay for it and it will be the customer, and the guy that owns the little place is probably there making sure things are going well, maybe even turning some wrenches...
For close to equal pricing I'd rather deal with a place like this

Than a place like this....

Do they really care your $35k 40hp tractor isn't working? Maybe, but they have guys paying more than that a month just leasing their equipment...

 

[polarred21]

Actually I'm quite impressed with that RCO dealer pic, unfortunately looks like they are closed. One nearest me just started selling boats!

I do get your point though. But as has been said, for some dealers selling tractors are just a side venture of the main business and can be turned off at any time.

 

[Mud2Money]

Dealers are everything. I got lucky another newer dealer came along. The first ls dealer is about 2 hours north. They flat out sucked. Couldn’t even get them on the phone for filters etc.

Newer place about 40 minutes away is a small equipment shop with good brand name things and diverse. They are a ls dealer and one of the better. I suspect cause the variety and amount of customers. Plus tractors are now a big dollar sale. They keep parts on hand , answers the phone fast ,good prices , usually some cash implement deals, and so far good mechanic works. Turn around times not bad. They prioritizes by who’s first in line for service.

So long as they exist my LS will.