What have you done with/to your GC Series 2300, 2400, 1700 Tractor TODAY

[ray66v]

I'm impressed that battery has a 1/25 date sticker on it.

Assuming that's not a running joke to put those on all of them.

Now that I see they are all pretty much $200, I consider this a leading candidate for my next replacement.

Start the timer!

Days since Irving replaced his battery: 0

 

[Bavarian]

Converted the 1759 from SSQA to Global.

 

[irvingj]

Well it's still pretty new, but judging by the way my tractor now starts (like almost immediately -- like Ray's!), it would seem I probably should have replaced my battery...oh, about ten years ago....

 

[MF RED in MT]

Have been getting some more snow in the last few days, about 18" and have plowed 2 times.

Last night plowing with temperatures about -2F the GC started to modulate RPMs and did die a couple times.

Limped it into the garage and my hands were to cold to look into the reason, but did top off the anti freeze since the reservoir container was empty.

In the past I have cleared snow in -40 weather and had no issues like this.

I have never had fuel freeze up ever, as I also use generous amounts of Power Service in the white bottle.

Glanced at the fuel filter and it looked clear, but last replacement of fuel filter was in 2019 at 622 hours.

Tractor now has over 800 hours, so today I'm going to replace the fuel filter if it warms up a bit.

I'll also looked at the air filter, which I clean every year, but it also was replaced in 2019.

Guess I'll pick up a new air filter also.

I have never had bad fuel in the past, but my question to those of knowledge, would a bottle of diesel 911 hurt if I added it to a 3/4 full tank.

I'm open to suggestions to solve my issue, and here are a couple of pictures from this morning.

Thanks, KC




B.T.W. I'm guessing this is fallout from irvingj's battery issue, ha

 

[hube2]

Have been getting some more snow in the last few days, about 18" and have plowed 2 times.

Last night plowing with temperatures about -2F the GC started to modulate RPMs and did die a couple times.

Limped it into the garage and my hands were to cold to look into the reason, but did top off the anti freeze since the reservoir container was empty.

In the past I have cleared snow in -40 weather and had no issues like this.

I have never had fuel freeze up ever, as I also use generous amounts of Power Service in the white bottle.

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I have never had bad fuel in the past, but my question to those of knowledge, would a bottle of diesel 911 hurt if I added it to a 3/4 full tank.

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I never had an issue either before the one I posted about a couple pages back.

What have you done with/to your GC Series 2300, 2400, 1700 Tractor TODAY

Well, it's a sad day in NH.... I think, after 17 years and 1210 hours.... I might be looking at a new battery. Seems that after glow plug operation, there just isn't enough left to crank. Had a heck of a time over the past 3 days getting it started. Will check that out later today when it's...

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I had 3, 5 gal cans plus my fuel tank clouding with wax. I put 1/4 bottle of 911 in each and that cleared up the fuel. After is was clear I added a second dose of the white bottle to each to prevent future gelling. I later emailed PowerService because I added twice the recommended amount and they assured me that I would be okay running this diesel and I have not seen any issue.

 

[MF RED in MT]

Thanks hube2,

Yes I have always used a double dose of Power Service, in the winter, #1 blend, and also summer, #2.

I also don't think it's bad fuel as this was the 2nd can from the last fill up that I dump in the other day.

I can't remember back when I changed the fuel filter out, but I think it may of been doing this same thing.

KC

 

[ray66v]

B.T.W. I'm guessing this is fallout from irvingj's battery issue, ha

I got in my car to go to the store today, and all I got was, click, click, click, when I went to start it.

My car must love me, because it did it in my garage, rather than God knows where.

The 5 year old Legend battery, RIP.

Trying to figure out how I can blame Irving?

I figured I had to worry a lot more about the 7 year old battery in my GC. Maybe I shouldn't say that out loud?

 

[MF RED in MT]

I got in my car to go to the store today, and all I got was, click, click, click, when I went to start it.

My car must love me, because it did it in my garage, rather than God knows where.

The 5 year old Legend battery, RIP.

Trying to figure out how I can blame Irving?

I figured I had to worry a lot more about the 7 year old battery in my GC. Maybe I shouldn't say that out loud?

You know who you are, Walter...

KC

 

[irvingj]

Boy, you guys are rough!

About my new battery: Yesterday I fired up the LRB -- had a small bit of snow & ice to clear off and decided to try an experiment with my new battery.

With NO help from the block heater; temp had been down to +2.7F overnight but was then up to +10F, and the tractor hadn't been started for 24 hours.

It didn't particularly like it, but it started!! First hit with the GP for 30 sec, bit of a wait and a second application of GP for 45 seconds, then cranked. Didn't start then, but it did at least fire! Repeated, and then it started. Quite rough initially, but calmed down after about one minute. Not bad!

Wow. Guess I really should have replaced that battery LONG before I did. Let this be a lesson to others: my old battery was apparently weak a long time before I ditched it -- yeah, it still worked (with quite a bit of help when it was cold)... but not like my new one!

 

[ray66v]

It didn't particularly like it, but it started!! First hit with the GP for 30 sec, bit of a wait and a second application of GP for 45 seconds, then cranked. Didn't start then, but it did at least fire! Repeated, and then it started. Quite rough initially, but calmed down after about one minute. Not bad!

Incomplete combustion after 30 seconds of glow plugs.....maybe a little. Incomplete combustion after another 45 seconds?

I think you are ready for some glow plug maintenance.

You could try removing one, or two, and see if they need cleaning. If they are coated with carbon, they don't work well.

 

[irvingj]

Well, considering how cold it had been, I'd say it started very well! No, I've never pulled the GPs but did check them several years ago... guess I should at least check continuity again.

Today, again with no block heater (16F) and about 45 seconds of GP, it started right up, no problem. I'm lovin' it!

 

[ray66v]

Well, considering how cold it had been, I'd say it started very well! No, I've never pulled the GPs but did check them several years ago... guess I should at least check continuity again.

Today, again with no block heater (16F) and about 45 seconds of GP, it started right up, no problem. I'm lovin' it!

Last time I started mine really cold, it was 6F or 7F. Gave it 30 seconds glow, and 1/4 throttle. Fired right up.

I actually have that one on video somewhere.

I am very fortunate to have really good quality fuel available to me, just 10 minutes away.

 

[MF RED in MT]

Update about my post # 2,624:

First of all, now the prices from my local Napa for a fuel filter is $46, and an air filter is $90, WOW!

So yesterday, in my garage I had a new fuel purchased in 2019 which cost me $7.13, and a slightly used air filter from the 2019 change out.

The air filter on the tractor from the 2019 change out cost in 2019 was $49.96.

So, I replaced the air filter with my slightly used air filter from the garage, and replaced the fuel filter with the new one I had from the garage.

The fuel and the old fuel filter looked ok, but there were a few tiny particles located in the sediment bowl.

Reinstalling the sediment bowl with fresh diesel about 3/4 full, and then adding about 2oz. 911 diesel treatment directly to the fuel tank (didn't think this was required).

The GC started right up (block heater was on for about 2 hours) in the garage that was 14 degrees F.

I plowed snow for about 2 hours and the GC ran smooth without any issues, yes.

I did use my MR. Heater double top heater attached to a 30 lb. propane tank to warm my hands once in a while, burr.

KC

EDIT: As of yesterday the GC has 806 hours.

 

[Dmacleo]

same fuel filter as my gc2400 isn't it?
massey brand

Amazon.com

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or aftermarket

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or was a need it right now issue most likely

 

[MF RED in MT]

Yes the same filter,

MF fuel filter #3608255M1, Napa fuel filter #3262.

MF air filter #3757472M91, Napa air filter #9691.

KC

 

[Dmacleo]

glad I keep a few from amazon in stock always. still got 3 unopened.
air filters though...yeah no matter where you get they cost, good thing they can be cleaned a few times but at some point you gotta replace. got one fresh one here, one in use will be tossed when time not gonna clean again.

 

[ray66v]

Look hard enough, and:

#3262 on line, is $27.99

49691 from Wix, is $44.19

Even those are to much. But, that's capitalism.

At least they are good quality.

 

[Dmacleo]

whats kind of funny is my massey dealer, same distance as to local napa store, is usually w/i 2$ of the online prices. I spent about 50$ for air filter (at dealer) but last one was approx year ago so who knows now.
fuel filters, usually keep 3 to 4 new here as they fits 3 neighbors tractors also. so if something happens I need to toss one in they replace it for me.

 

[Dmacleo]

0800 am. -2f. up from -10f. gc2400 started (yup I used block heater) to clear 4" drifts off driveway. looked at temps, shut the 2013 escape and 2019 silverado off then turned key off on the gc2400. as I type this still below -2F and yet...all my crap has been running.
let the gc2400 running for 45 minutes, decided not worth hopping onto operator platform right now. injured rt knee (operated on 9-2024) other day using it, whatever.
to tie this in, family wanted be to run blower out this morning to clear a path on 2 properties. not happening.

 

[ray66v]

0800 am. -2f. up from -10f. gc2400 started (yup I used block heater)

No. Sorry, time out. I have to throw a challenge flag. Block heater starts don't count.

I am willing to stipulate to the fact that it will start at absolute zero, with a block heater.