front tires for deere 4300

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the front tires on my deere 4300 are in bad shape. they are 25x8.50-14 r4, i believe 6 ply (i will have to double check). i was looking at 10 ply r4 as replacement for increased puncture resistance in thorns and such. part of the reason the current ones are bad is the sidewalls are cracking/splitting because they go flat in cold weather from thorn punctures. my plugs must shrink more in the cold and slowly leak (they are fine in summer).

are all r4 tires the same? someone mentioned to me that they thought skid steers had a different type of rim so the bead on the tire was somehow different. i can't find anything like this in searches. i do see some tires listed as 'skid steer' or 'skid power' but can't tell if they are in any way different. do i need to get a certain kind of tire or will pretty much any 25-8.50x14 work?

thanks!

 

[dfkrug]

the front tires on my deere 4300 are in bad shape. they are 25x8.50-14 r4, i believe 6 ply (i will have to double check).

I use that size on my 20yo Kioti, and I am considering new ones, too. They are original, with nearly 1150 hours on them. Tread is down by half, and traction is suffering. Never had a puncture.

As for what to buy, I saw them for $105 each on eBay, shipped, but before sales tax.

Years ago, I bought some for a 4300 I was restoring, but don't recall particulars.

 

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I use that size on my 20yo Kioti, and I am considering new ones, too. They are original, with nearly 1150 hours on them. Tread is down by half, and traction is suffering. Never had a puncture.

As for what to buy, I saw them for $105 each on eBay, shipped, but before sales tax.

Years ago, I bought some for a 4300 I was restoring, but don't recall particulars.

i was surprised, i thought they would be like $300 each now. i have seen them under $100 for 6 ply and around $110-$120 for 10 ply. mine has 1600 hrs, the tread is fine, just the sidewalls are failing. one is starting to bulge through a crack, so i figure i better get them.

i just wanted to be sure that the ones i've been looking at are the right ones and that if i got some heavy duty industrial that they weren't somehow not going to work for some reason. the loadmaxx seem to be budget friendly.

 

[dfkrug]

These are BKT brand, from Preston's tire in NE. I have never heard of the brand.

I imagine that these tires last a Long Time if kept off pavement and in 2WD. 1600 hrs is great. I mounted my own, but these tires are STIFF.

"14 BKT Skid Power Skid Steer R4 6 ply Tubeless 25x8.50-14"

 

[defed]

These are BKT brand, from Preston's tire in NE. I have never heard of the brand.

I imagine that these tires last a Long Time if kept off pavement and in 2WD. 1600 hrs is great. I mounted my own, but these tires are STIFF.

"14 BKT Skid Power Skid Steer R4 6 ply Tubeless 25x8.50-14"

those are some of the ones i was looking at, but are only 6 ply - and also where i got to wondering if 'skid steer' tires were in fact somehow different as someone told me they thought they might be. do i need 10 ply? probably not, but for $10 more, why not? the old 6 ply did get thorns through them. i figured i was going to take them to the tire place. i doubt my changer has the power to do it and even the guy that does my inspection didn't know if his would - wouldn't know until he tried and found out how stiff they were! heck, the 10 ply might not even 'go flat' if they get a hole.

for $110, i wasn't too concerned about the brand. i imagine they should be plenty good enough for the use i put them through - mostly finish mowing and brush hogging.

 

[dfkrug]

I got them on using my modified HF manual tire mounter, which is mounted to the forks of my tractor. The JD wheels did not have bead-retention lips that ATV and some car tires have.

ATVs are the hardest to do. Need a special tool for those.

 

[oldnslo]

Skid steer tires might have a different style side wall in the bead area to reduce flexing while skid turning and protect lip on the rim.

 

[greenie]

Front tires under a loaded FEL bucket take a beating with the weight and the turning I'd recommend the 10 ply and compare the tire load rating - they vary.

 

[defed]

Front tires under a loaded FEL bucket take a beating with the weight and the turning I'd recommend the 10 ply and compare the tire load rating - they vary.

interestingly, i can't find an actual load capacity on the 10 ply. all the tire places just list the 'load range' as 10 ply (or 6 ply etc), even for name brands like carlisle. edit: for some brands they do show a 'load index'. amazon shows both a ply rating and load capacity for some of the name brands tires.

the 4300 doesn't have a very high front loader capacity, less than 2000 lbs.

 

[dfkrug]

the 4300 doesn't have a very high front loader capacity, less than 2000 lbs.

The OEM R4s on my Kioti handle 40 psi, and a load cap of something like 2000 lbs each. But I also have 1500# of counter-weight.

My loader is only rated at about 1150#, but that's at full height. I can lift a full ton a few inches off the ground, and do so regularly. The JD 420 or 430 loaders have decent load caps, too.

 

[defed]

The OEM R4s on my Kioti handle 40 psi, and a load cap of something like 2000 lbs each. But I also have 1500# of counter-weight.

My loader is only rated at about 1150#, but that's at full height. I can lift a full ton a few inches off the ground, and do so regularly. The JD 420 or 430 loaders have decent load caps, too.

i would say the capacity is nearly the same as yours. something like 1200 at full height, 1900 at 5' and 3000 breakout. i'm not sure the load ratings on some of the tires are even accurate. 1 saw one place listing a 6 ply at 8000 lbs. that seems suspect considering most of the other ones were more like 2200 lbs. i'm sure the loadmaxx ones will be fine, just wish they would show an actual weight figure.

 

[defed]

i've found them listed as 'rating E'....which is confusing too, i think it may be more for passenger vehicle tires. but one chart says E is 1500lbs, one says 2500lbs and one says 3500lbs.

 

[dfkrug]

i've found them listed as 'rating E'....which is confusing too, i think it may be more for passenger vehicle tires. but one chart says E is 1500lbs, one says 2500lbs and one says 3500lbs.

Yes, confusing.

What if you asked the seller to send a photo of the sidewall? That has the load capacity and pressure info. A 40-50psi tire of that size is going to have plenty of capacity.

 

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Yes, confusing.

What if you asked the seller to send a photo of the sidewall? That has the load capacity and pressure info. A 40-50psi tire of that size is going to have plenty of capacity.

i figure it will be more than capable. i thought about asking them if they knew the rating, but figured most of these places are just warehouses and don't know and can't get pics....but i'll try! thanks.

 

[CalG]

How does one cross from 7.00X12 to the more modern format? XXX XX-12
I would like to replace the front ag tires on my Hurlimann. All I find are fork truck tires and "implement" tires.

 

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How does one cross from 7.00X12 to the more modern format? XXX XX-12
I would like to replace the front ag tires on my Hurlimann. All I find are fork truck tires and "implement" tires.

i can't answer that. i did a search to double check what the #s mean and got this for 25x8.50-14:

Tire Size Breakdown:

• 25: This number indicates the overall diameter of the tire in inches when fully inflated.
• 8.50: This number represents the tire's width in inches. It is measured from sidewall to sidewall.
• 14: This number denotes the diameter of the wheel rim in inches that the tire is designed to fit.

so, maybe if you take all the measurements from your tire, you may be able to come up w/ a size?

 

[defed]

Yes, confusing.

What if you asked the seller to send a photo of the sidewall? That has the load capacity and pressure info. A 40-50psi tire of that size is going to have plenty of capacity.

as suspected, they don't have access to the tires, but here is what they said.....seems kind of a low rating, but should be more than enough. I did ask 2 places, so we'll see if the other one responds.

"This tire have E 10 Ply Rating and the actual meaning of the E rating is that a single tire can handle around 1,520 lbs at 80 PSI.
Pictures represents brand and model of the tire listed for sale. Sadly, since we can not see the tires physically, we can not provide you with more pictures."

 

[sixdogs]

Make darn sure you have the correct tire diameter so you don't chew up your $4,000 front axle if FWA.

I had a Deere tractor with R4's and wanted to purchase a heavier and more rugged tire on the rear. Crickets from the tire guy until he said why don't I consider telehandler (?) or extended (?) hoe tire?

We found the same size as I needed in a Firestone 12 ply tire and man is it a beast. It probably weighs double the Indian or Chinese one commonly used and is so strong I had to overinflate it for six months to make sure the bead sealed and didn't seep air out. But it's pricey.

Tires today are expensive if they are made right and like they used to be. If you can't or won't pay for quality you wind up with import stuff that may or may not work, depending.


A backup good solution that also is pricey but solves the problem are "Tweels" those are those plastic/rubber airless spoke-looking tires you occasionally see. They work and you will never get a flat.

 

[greggbat]

I just ordered a pair of these for my 4310. The total is for a pair with free shipping with Walmart+.
They seem like a pretty good match for the Carlisle tires that were on it.
The old ones were a bear to dismount. Mounting the new ones was worse. After I did one I called Discount Tire. They mounted the second one for $10 including a new valve stem. I wish I let them do the whole job.

 

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I just ordered a pair of these for my 4310. The total is for a pair with free shipping with Walmart+.
They seem like a pretty good match for the Carlisle tires that were on it.
The old ones were a bear to dismount. Mounting the new ones was worse. After I did one I called Discount Tire. They mounted the second one for $10 including a new valve stem. I wish I let them do the whole job.


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i looked at those, but they are 6 ply, i want 10, so the loadmaxx for $115 ish seemed like a good option. i too was looking at walmart as i also get free shipping. i think priority tire also had free shipping. i was just going to cut the old ones off, one is garbage any way, but i didn't know if i would be able to get them on. my dad thinks we can (he did his, but were a little bigger diameter which seems like might be easier). my local repair shop guy, who would probably charge about $10 each, doesn't know if his machine can do it - depends on how rigid they are. the local tire shops wants $25 each to do it.