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house (noun) - a hole in the ground into which one shovels money. 💰 I'd hang onto it if I were you, but your asking price isn't unreasonable if you really need to sell IMHO.

Anyone know if there's an equivalent part number for the hydraulic oil filter for the PT-425? I've been using these for the engine oil and I'm thinking the next time I need to change that $@#!^ filter it's getting one with the nut on it....(or I guess I could weld one on)...here's the link for...

Been so busy I haven't had time to write! FINALLY got the filter off thanks to @ponytug advice and a newer, larger, beterrer strap wrench with a 1/2" drive with a 36" breaker bar. Result: an utterly crushed filter later and....we're good! :cool: (y) Of course, then you need to get the filter...

But then I gotta find a new place for my cupholder... :LOL:

Huh. My manual shows the rear of the dog bone getting lubed every 8 hours, but the front (where you have to remove the covers) is listed as a 50 hour item. That said, I can DEFINITELY see why one would be much better off doing both at 8.

Thank you everyone for the input! Ordered another filter wrench that may help. The idea I had that I didn't voice right off is to "work it hot" by changing the hydro filter with the oil hot enough to turn on the cooler fan. Not my idea of a good time, but sometimes the hot oil causes things...

Oh no, I've been doing other regular lube every 10 hours or fewer. At 50 hours is the first "big service" for the hydraulic oil filter, the forward center pivot, etc. I decided to change the engine air filters as well as the oil and filter anyway, even though Koehler says you can go 100...

Hi all, So I'm doing the 50 hour service...changed the engine oil and filter, the air filter, lubed most all of the chassis points, and lubed up all the linkages good, and then..... 1) We reached the @#^* hydraulic oil filter. It's pure eeeeeeevvvviiiilllll. None of my wrenches will move it...

We have two wells Peter (40' and 140' deep), but we also capture rainwater off the buildings. 1000 gallon rain tank plus another 750 in an old cistern that captures off the 100+ year old house. A two inch rain on the 40x80' building will fill the 1000 gallon. The tank on my rig is 65 gallons...

Planted an orchard today! 25 apple trees initially, 5 species. My water rig / pallet has a 65 gallon tank and a 12V battery in a waterproof box with a pump fastened to that. I pick it up and carry it with the PT forks. Weight, balance and structural integrity are "marginal." :LOL: The...

Used a combo of the front mower and a heavy roller to mow and roll at the same time with the PT-425. It works! - although the rig is pretty long and you DEFINITELY do not want to get on a hillside with it. You also want to take your time turning because if you get the roller swinging the tail...

Yeah, good article @SpringHollow! The author is right about remembering to watch the tilt on the bucket on the top of the lift arc, especially with a rolling load like a big tree branch. (Dude needs a grapple bucket for that work. 😉 ) One thing the author didn't mention is that heavy loads...

You'd think if the key switch was off you should get the same as the bench voltage, but that's not what's happening right? Agree with m5040 that a quick trip to the auto parts store or an Interstate Batteries shop is a good thing to check and rule out if possible. Sounds like some kind of...

Glad it turned out to be something that you had prior experience with! Looking at the broken wire, any chance of finding some solid core wire that gauge? It might have slightly better fatigue life down the line. It will be harder to bend like you've got it in the loop there, but once in place...

Which tank do you have? My 425 came with a welded aluminum tank with a non-vented cap. I know there are others out there that came with plastic tanks, and it sounds like those have vented tanks. Seems like one could use a safety cell from a race car or ATV setup...trick is finding one that...

So Day 2 begins... Clean connector Tap on booth nipples with a bolt until I can push it in and out by hand Lube connector Connect connectors and.... IT CONNECTS! So then we start her up aaaaand...THE CYLINDER WHICH DISCONNECTS THE IMPLEMENT WON'T !%@^^ MOVE! *bangs head on side of barn* OK...

Thanks all - I'll try popping the centers of both sides again tomorrow and see if that does the trick. Can't hurt to clean the things one more time either. Thank you for the quick response!

These things are HORRIBLE. Specifically these are the smaller of the two sets of the connectors used for (a) locking and unlocking implements and (b) operating third functions like a blade. Park machine. Remove QCs from blade. ATTEMPT to put QCs on lock/unlock circuit.... FAIL! I got ONE of...

I like Ink's idea there. IF the posts are REALLY REALLY ROTTED, then yeah the snall auger should chew them right out. Hit any hard spots though, and it will be the Mad Hatter's wild ride!

Nicely done! :cool:(y)

Just reading the description, the MET Impex looks like a high carbon steel.....very hard, but not very tough. If the bucket is wearing out from abrasion rather than impact it might be a good idea. If the wear out is more bending the other steel could be better choice. Boron tends to add...

Welcome! What do you plan to do with it?

Murphy strikes again! (Why is it ALWAYS the one on the bottom? Probably for the same reason the flat is always on the inside dual...)

Fun story, somewhat unrelated. The oldest Mazda rotary cars (RX-2 for instance) had a button labeled "S" on the dash connected to a relay that squirted ether into the carb to help with notoriously cold starting issues. Unfortunately the totally rational engineers that designed this hadn't...

Well since it's bending I like your idea of adding bars to it @ponytug . As far as material, buckets seem to either fatigue out (crack) or wear through (abrasion-related holes). For fatigue, usually you want a moderate carbon steel like a 1040 and some strategically placed plates or bars. The...

Some buckets are indeed bigger than others @ponytug...fixing these is fun! Some have interchangable wear components to help extend the life...

FWIW I went out and test started mine ahead of a big snow that we're expecting. I have the Koehler CH-750 in mine. Kinda cantankerous to start when subzero cold, but is was a fairly balmy 25F out. Got it started OK then just kinda seemed to run poorly. Fiddled with levers, ran the hydraulic...

Mine is still practically new, but we make these kinds of repairs on wheel loader buckets all the time. A basic patch on the outside and a fillet weld on the inside should do I'd think.

The this thing about the UPTC is... ...we don't talk about UPTC. :cool:

^^^What he said^^^

I'm about 2 hours to your south in Illinois FWIW. Lots of good advice so far. A trip to Farm and Fleet for a cheap torpedo heater (or one that bolts on top of a propane tank) and some fuel may be all you need to get it to go.

Sounds like you need to drive around the neighborhood collecting $2000 bills from all the other places buried out there. Stay safe and GO GET 'EM PT!!!!

Had a similar experience this morning @MossRoad. 13F ambient / -3F with the wind. Choke to the max, crank and feed throttle...kicks over, quickly start backing off the throttle and choke and settled into a cold idle at maybe 10% choke / 20% throttle. Let it up for full minute and maybe a bit...

FWIW It's in an enclosed lean to attached to my barn (lean to with doors I built in the fall to keep things a little more protected). Eureka, IL is about halfway between Peoria and Bloomington IL. So far we're on the "snow" side of the ice / snow line, and I'm 100% good with that! Good tips...

CH-750 Kohler gasser

Well it looks like the weather is going to go to poop....4-8" of snow...-10F with wind chill. Fuel is topped off and fresh, blade is on, bucket is readily available, salt spreader is available if snow turns out to be ice. A couple of days ago when it was ~20F the Kohler CH750 in my PT-425 was...

Cleared the driveway of about 2" deep slush and water with the PT-425 and the blade with the rubber lip. Turned a 2 hour job into about 30 minutes of work...MUCH BETTER than clearing all that by hand! One tip...my driveway is asphalt. Once you get the angle (left to right) and tilt (forward...

Yeah I wish someone made a digital caliper that was decimal mm and converted to nearest fractional inch with the push of a button...and didn't cost a bazillion $$$.

Merry Christmas y'all!

+10 points for the mechanical caliper in the picture...NEVER needs batteries! (My digital ones all seem to eat batteries at the worst possible moment...)

Butcha gotta put the star on top! :p I'll hold the ladder. Good luck!

Wind was INSANE yesterday...drove into it to go visit my folks and the truck was showing 13 MPG on the highway...got the tailwind on the way home and was seeing 36 MPG...averaged out to about the usual! 🙃

Thinking out loud here...seems like someone could make a remote control kit for a PT that lets you drive the machine from a safe distance / location. That way you can mow the slopes with less pucker factor - or up to the full capability of the machine. Even with the mechanical limitations of...

Gotcha! We grow these berries called "ground cherries" that are kinda the same way....you gotta get 'em when the gettin' is good, and they make AMAZING jam. That jam gets to be the little dot of filling on Christmas butter cookies. Yummmmm.

@MossRoad - YELLOW Raspberries? Interesting...we planted Purple Raspberries (a hybrid) that was described as "well behaved" It was a LIE! :mad: Fortunately the mini-hoe is good at breaking up roots and chopping them back into place.

Gettin' ready for some FOOTBALL here! Happy Thanksgiving y'all!

Good work and good write up there Peter! Did they recharge the accumulator with nitrogen or air? I'm guessing nitrogen...?

That's a good question there Peter. For smaller machines from larger manufacturers (think JCB, Hitachi, Kubota, Bobcat, Deere, etc.) they will probably try to go electric wherever they can while the smaller players will probably go gasoline. Which way PT goes will probably depend on how many...

@marrt - I like your idea for a "425+" version! Bigger wheel motors, and maybe the 1000cc version of the Koehler Pro motor...don't get me wrong I love my 425, but I've been using it enough to wish for a little more oomph in the same compact size package.

When my PT-425 was shipped here they just chained it over the center tunnel. Which scraped all the paint off. :mad: So I repainted it and all is well now. Looking at that picture, can you get the chain closer to the frame on the red part?

I have the smaller PT forks and they saved my butt today. A shipping company just dumped a large 1000# palette labeled "fragile"..."electronic components"..."high value item"..."contact before delivery"....outside my shop. In the rain. Without calling or texting. 🤬 Quickly grabbed the PT and...

That's interesting...I was out doing a LOT of tilling today and noticed that the right front was the first one to spin if there was a loss of traction. That's probably related!

Yeah elevation and slope are hard to capture in pictures but I think you got it pretty well actually. For what you've got there I'd rather have a PT-anything over a ZTR for sure! The PT-1850 is rated for steeper slopes (45 degrees) than the PT-1845 (40 degrees) some of which is in the engine...

i think that probably depends on your lot. I have a much smaller PT-425 and a mower, and it does a great job! But there are some places where the Deere Z425 is just so much more nimble that we decided to keep it around. Sometimes a mix of tools is better I guess!

Nice! :cool:(y) I didn't know there was anything special about the PT425 hydraulic quick connectors....were they an odd size or something?

I'll second Batteries Plus and add a tip of the hat for my local Interstate shop as well.

Hmm...this thread needs a video!

Nicely done! :cool:

Hmm...the current factory fuel filter is opaque, but next time I'll use a clear one so I can see what's going on. Good idea Peter! I'll also take a look at the fuel line routing to see if there's some insulation opportunity too.

I took delivery of a shiny new mower deck and tiller on Friday, so I was eager to get to chopping down the mess of weeds that had sprung up on a couple of acres of ground that will become an orchard next year. It was hot - about 90F ambient - and after 4 hours of fun (and on the second tank of...

Nice! Which motor is in yours? What tools do you use the most?

Welcome aboard!

That's odd - pulled them both and they were NOT the same. Huh. Must be something cashed on this PC or something. My apologies.

Does the 422 and 425 PTO operate at the same relief pressure?

I just did quick pass through both price lists, and I'd say no. Odds are the PT-422 stuff would work on the PT-425 but not the other way around because the PT-422 doesn't have the hydraulic grunt for the larger PT-425 implements. The PT-425 will probably be amused by the smaller PT-422...

If you're really out of options @MossRoad sometimes you can drill a very small hole NEXT TO the stud hole to loosen the grip of the stud in the hole, then get it out, then drill a larger hole and use a helicoil. TOTALLY a PITA, and 100% not recommended when there's any other option. Sometimes...

Yup - the 425 comes with two.

Congrats! These things work so well to do so many jobs, they are like a machine sized Leatherman multitool.

That is a great knot! It's a little bit like the hitch we use on a cleat for a boat, but you don't need the cleat. Learning knots was one of my favorite parts of sailing, and this is a good one! Here's a good quick tutorial.

So if you set the wayback machine to waaay back they way you tested your ROPS was to literally roll the machine down a hill sideways and evaluate the result at the bottom. Now, if your maximum working angle is steeper than 1:1 then your rollover hill has to be steeper than that. Fast forward...

I've been thinking about adding some header wrap too. I'm too cheap to have it JetHot coated, and I think I can wrap it without taking it off the engine. Add that to the infinite to do list... :rolleyes:

Yeah, the change of the 1430 to gas is part of a leading edge of a LOT of small equipment dropping diesel due to emission regs. Aside from the complexity, the cost of the aftertreatment is often as expensive as the engine itself - and waaaay more of a nuisance to package! The tough part for a...

Effective and easy to fix and repair.....WIN!

You got it @agjones - What I planted isn't your wild and crazy poplar (because I'm totally with you @mikester - those can be a giant nuisance) but a hybrid that supposedly doesn't sucker and provides some nice color in the landscape. That plus the dogwood plus some lilac I'm moving a little...

Spent the day working with the PT-425 planting poplar trees and dogwoods using the pivoting "post hole auger head." Since this was my first time out using it I thought I'd write down a few things I learned and see if anyone else has things to add. The pivoting head moves fore/aft and...

That fire would cook yer hot dogs and marshmallows!

Huh. I'd think with lumber prices through the roof people would take anything useful, and those sure look useful! Seems like you've got enough there to build a small cabin!

Indeed interesting. Kinda like the boom mower attachment, but with a more rigid connection?

Can confirm...4 bolts in the left ankle, 2 in the knee, 5 pound steel rod connects the two. I like the control setup for sure.

I had kinda written off the other pumps when they pumped the tank dry. Nuthin goods gonna happen at that point! Losing hydraulic fluid is kinda the PT equivalent of bleeding out. Small cut, not a big deal. Pulsing artery, probably not gonna end well. LOL

That's also kinda cool because if you critically failed an implement - like pumped the implement circuit dry for some reason - you could still drive home. Huh....

THAT'S fascinating...the drive circuit loop doesn't pass back to tank...and there's enough thermal mass to keep from completely cooking the oil when tramming for a long time? That's kinda interesting...thanks for the info!

Catching up with the post stream here...let me ask another question. Are the pumps we're talking about variable displacement or fixed displacement? You can tell by looking for either a pilot hydraulic line (a tiny thing) running to the pump or a wire (for an electrohydraulic or EH) system. I...

+1 on agreeing that you're on the right track thinking this through. The only thing that hasn't been discussed is "tank turns" - or how often the total volume of the tank flows through working system per unit time. If your tank turns get too low then heat will build up even faster. You've...

Having seen both a 1430 and a 425 next to each other, the 425 has way better maneuverability with a tight turning circle, but the 1450 can bring the torque when you need it. Both is great if you can swing it!

Thanks for the replies everyone! It's a pricey piece of hardware, but there's some work I need to do that doesn't make sense for ur Husqvarna walk behind. It's a great unit with a Honda engine, but it's a bit much to ask of it! 🙃 I figure with the PT that job becomes doable for a larger...

FTFY. ;)

Woo hoo! :ROFLMAO:

I have NEVER seen one of those @m5040 - very cool! Obviously built in the era before safety regs as I doubt those "foot pegs" would past muster nowadays. Still, things like that can sure be super helpful in the right application. Our family has had a Farmall 560 with tricycle steering...

Oh man do I know this one...even the little cylinder on the bucket of the hoe can provide a lot more of a ride than one would think!

Dorry for the lag @Goose1776 - was traveling for work this week (for the first time in over a year....felt VERY weird to be honest...). Very cool! That sounds a lot like my application. For moving miscellaneous loads, you'll have a choice between the loose material bucket and the 4-in-1...

If you have the tiller - especially for a PT-425 - how do you like it? How does it compare to the results from a walk-behind tiller? I'm sure it's easier, but how well does it produce a nice well tilled surface? I found a video of one in action here: Do you always have to drive backwards...

Welcome! What kind of things do you have in mind for your future PT?

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Time is the most important thing you can give to any child. But a pint size PT would be SO COOL! Maybe some electric motors and some wood....hmm....

Just built something similar for my rig. Used a 65 gal tank and then got a 12V electric pump (44 psi, 4 gpm) from Northern Tool, a battery box, and a 12V battery. Mounted the pump to the battery box and wired in a switch, so the pump box and the tank can be placed where needed and the machine...

Very good Peter - we'll hit 'em next time by!

We're both thinking the same thing. I checked all the connectors in that "cluster" up front just to be sure it wasn't a missed assembly step. There was only the one that was loose. I WAS working the 3rd function a lot with the hoe, so I probably did cycle it a lot more than usual that day...

Used the machine for a couple of service meter hours today and no sign of other gremlins so far. Because the leak was up front by the time the oil leaked down the hose and into the footwell it was relatively cool (or at least enough I didn't get burned). For cleanup I did pull the two side...

Yeah I'm not too freaked out by it, just more of a surprise. One of the things I like about PT's products is that there's not too much you can't fix with a handful of wrenches. At first I thought I had a bad lift cylinder, but after tracing the drip patterns a bit it lead right to the fitting...

I was busily digging out a stump from a redbud tree and things got a little intense. Little 4" diameter tree had 2" and larger roots going every which way. While trying to break the roots off the stump with the hoe I got a little more than I bargained for while trying to rack back the bucket...

I can attest to this though...I have stalled the PT425 a couple of times when I got a little too aggressive digging into a pile of wet wood chips to move. When you fall of the torque curve in that application (which is pretty easy) ya feel like a total schmuck. 🤪

You're certainly on the right track there @MossRoad - HP is HP, doesn't matter to the pumps what makes it! What might matter in certain circumstances is "area under the torque curve." This governs how quickly the engine falls off that peak HP once the load builds up. A diesel typically has a...

Probably similar price, I'd be surprised if it totally went away.

You've got a point, the pre-emissions diesel fuel burn was waaay better than the equivalent HP (or TQ) gasoline engine. The bad news was / is that with the needed emissions controls to meet the new requirements we could never get the diesel to be as efficient as a gasoline engine under about...

...or maybe an eTorque thing like the Ram pickup uses. It wouldn't take much to do since it's an external "bolt on" thing...

Hmm...it lists a "999cc gasoline engine". That's a fair bit of displacement! I wonder if they are using this one CH940 | Command PRO | KOHLER

Mine is TIGHT but then again it's only got 8 hours or so on it now. Note to self: live with tight until absolutely no choice left...

I just received a PT-425 and that shipped with a fully welded aluminum tank. Maybe you can get one of those for your PT-422?

Congrats on the new one! How many hours did the first one go before "going over the waterfall?"

Center Cup Holder Provides critical hydration to Power Trac operator No support material required if printed with the ears up (or the hole you stick your beverage in face down on the print bed) I used a material called Tough PLA for this...should be standard equipment! :LOL:

Hydraulic fitting slip covers Covers the larger fittings when not in use No support material is required I used inexpensive PLA for these...not as fancy as some you can buy from the store, but effective, cheap, and easy to print. Rescale these as needed in your slicing software for other...

Thought I'd start a new thread for 3D printable goodies for use with Power Trac equipment. Some of these items will probably also be useful for other brands, however some are a uniquely PT thing. For others posting in this thread in the future, please note the following with each item: Item...

Sure! Do you have a 3D printer? If so I can post the STL file. It prints pretty easily as a single material print with no support structures needed. If you don't have a 3D printer I can set it up via a really good US 3D print company I use for work and you can order it from them to your...

Yup! Used a material called "Tough PLA" that's a bit more durable than standard 3D print plastic. The filament material is made in the USA too, which is kinda unusual.

Added a very important feature to my PT-425...probably should be standard equipment!

Y'all got some funny lookin' water in Virginia....:unsure:

Oh yeah....dozer folks get all excited if there's no paint on the blade....paint 'em and its GONE in an hour or two in the dirt. Still, I'd like it to at least START nice! :LOL:

New one right here...PT425 in Illinois! :cool:

Very thorough post - great addition! Might be worth a forum sticky?

@tommott77 - On the turning circle with the PT-425, it's VERY tight. Much tighter than my friend's 2-series Deere for sure. More importantly for my purposes, when you've got it "on the stops" it doesn't tear the turf, even with the bar tires on mine. Very pleased with the turning radius so far!

Well the gas axe would like to have a word about that...😆 But yeah, things are never quite the same when you "unweld" stuff for sure. I'm with the odd number of teeth so there's one in the middle and go bolt on....mostly so I can have that bolt hole (and maybe a couple of friends) to bolt a...

Spread fertilizer on 3 acres and clover seed on 1 acre of bare ground. PT-425 ran like a champ...and I'm actually surprised at how little fuel it consumed doing it too. (y)

Didn't run into anything today, but I was also being super careful since you mentioned it! (y) I DID get up to a pucker factor of 5 or so when I misjudged the steepness of a slope I was moving parallel to and started wondering if I was about to perform a ROPS test. 😱 No harm no foul this...

Used the spreader today for the lawn and to seed clover on the area that will become the new orchard. One thing I didn't like about the spreader is that there's no mechanism to control the flow rate out of the hopper precisely. The cable that opens and closes the bottom port / door is kind of...

Magnet test fails, so it's either aluminum or a low-magnetic stainless. Very good job on the welds on it.

Youbetcha!

I think the gas tank is Aluminum, but I haven't stuck a magnet on it to be sure. It is certainly SHINY!

Our new PT arrived this week! Here's some initial pictures... Ours is the small one. The red one was a factory rework heading up to Wisconsin. There was a fair amount of paint damage in shipping, so first stop after unloading was into the shop for some rework. PT is going to ship me...

aaaAAAHHHaaa....that makes a bit more sense. It actually looks like there's two different QC connectors up front, one for the PTO and one for the 3rd function valve.

Quick question...I see in the price list that the hydraulics are listed at 3/8", but they sure look like standard 1/2"...anyone know?

Or we could mount the generator in the frame....wait, then you get one of these! https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15126247/caterpillar-d7e-feature/

Neat machine @m5040 - congrats!

Or one could rotate the motor-pump stack vertically and stack the batteries too. All a matter of how much work one wants to put in! As crazy as this sounds, Tesla once considered a "power trailer" for the Model Y that would essentially be a tow-behind battery bank. Could do that here too!

The challenge with these Power Tracs is that I keep seeing cool tools for them. This keeps up I'll have to use the Power Trac to build a new barn to hold more Power Trac attachments. Is there any cure for this addiction?

Did you get to the bottom of your mystery @woodlandfarms ? I think @m5040 has some good advice there. Beyond those suggestions, how clean is your hydro oil? Any chance some creeping crud for into something important?

That adapter is super cool @PowerTracManiac - nicely done! Probably a little much for my planned PT-425, but if you have the machine to rig it looks like a slick solution! Do you use that with hydraulic driven attachments too, or just "passive" tools like forks and buckets?

It's a big forum...maybe it's just an echo? 🙃

Good point on the shipping Ken. Makes sense!

Thanks!

That's a good point. Not a huge purchase in the face of everything else and it's certainly cheaper than a separate fork lift!

Interesting idea! I almost went with the 4-in-1 bucket but decided that I was going to be moving a LOT of mulch and that extra capacity would help.

I'm in Central Illinois.

Been reading the forum here for a while but ready for a first post now - hi Everyone! :) We're starting a new project...a 1-2 acre orchard / park...and that's a bit more work than I really want to do by hand! Looked at Deere, Kubota and Massey seriously...not many Kioti dealers around...