220V Plused spray MIG welders?

   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #31  
Haha. I'm the opposite. Only aluminum with Cobra push-pull.

Never tried on steel.

As I understand it, I think I can set mine up w spool gun if desired vs change out some feed
Parts etc.

I remember it was a stretch for me 5 yrs or so ago so I couldn’t afford the AL add on.
Great welder, makes me look good.
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #32  
Actually I did have a plan for an electric sign shop and topless bar in Costa Rica.
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #33  
Actually I did have a plan for an electric sign shop and topless bar in Costa Rica.

What revision number you up to now?

Maybe you be better off gettin yerself a dealership fer Sukup Safety Homes to respond to disasters. Set yerself up small woman painting studio in first one you get up. You still got yer paints aint ya?
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #34  
Haha. I'm the opposite. Only aluminum with Cobra push-pull.

Never tried on steel.

Cobra runs sweet off older Trailblazer once you get it wired up. Possibly de finest push/pull ever created.
Nice part dey cheap around here, homeowner guys got no 3リ to run de snake from. Ain't my job to tell fool sellin power unit and snake for $400 he can sell just Cobra end on ebay for twice dat money.
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders?
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#35  
Members, if you'd like to see spray MIG welding in perspective with pulsed and others check out these 4 slo-mo vids of each.

MIG Welding Transfer Methods - A.E.D. Motorsport Products

btw, I have a hankering for A & W hot dogs with 'red sauce', mustard, and lots of chopped onion. I just hate to put on a suit & tie for such a short trip to get dinner. :rolleyes:

That link is a great explanation of the differences in transfer. While I never used pulse in a welder, the idea with pulse is that spray transfer is subject to gravity and pulse allows the metal to transfer without dripping while still maintaining good enough penetration (or so I'm told).

Elsewhere, I've been having several discussions. The first with a friend who is an iron worker who told me that I'm out-thinking myself and that we should just stick-weld the mounts after tack-welding with a mig process, grinding the tack welds down, and then stick-weld the whole thing--hitting the root weld with 6010 for the best penetration and covering it with 7018 using his Miller generator welder after I rebuild its carb (no matter what, I learned that I'm rebuilding his welder's carb and whatever else I need do to make it work again).

Then through messaging it turns out that yomax4 is an insider knowing the guys at my local Miller jobber/dealer and yomax4 offered all kinds of good advice on the MIG process leaving whatever welder up to me.

So roll forward a few weeks and I can tell you a little bit about what I've learned, or what I have been able to learn through the internet (and as we all know--everything we read on the internet is always TRU, heh).

After name-dropping yomax4's real name, I still experienced sticker shock with Miller welders although I did open up to also looking at the 220, the 235 and well as the Multimatic 255 and offered to trade in my Multimatic 200. None of the welders I looked at could do AC Tig, and all of then could do DC Tig, but then my existing Miller Multimatic 200 already does DC Tig so I'm not really gaining anything there except easier Tig welding with the pulse ability and hot start (which I haven't tried but does look cool on video examples).

Contrary to Fredd's amusing explanation about customer support, every time I've called Miller Welding's mothership for support, within the first three rings they answer and I'm talking to a real human being, and then, within another minute I'm talking to a real tech person apparently from Wisconsin because we speak the same language and they've been able to intelligently resolve my issues quickly. What I'm saying is that I've never had better technical support and this in the context that I have a Miller dealer just a hop, skip, and jump away in Bemidji. This to say that I'm leery about moving away from Blue because of the customer experience.

So finally my eye started to wander a bit where I thought I could take the risk of purchasing a Chinesium 250 series welder. From that experience it became a hot mess. While Chinese welders are cheap enough, they have little to no explanations about what they can do, what guns fit or anything. At the end of that rabbit trail it looked like a cheap, hot mess and so I backed away from that option.

So I turned my attention toward American Chinesium welders and looked at Eastwood's second generation of their 250i. After calling Eastwood and looking through the owner's manual of the 250i, discounted Eastwood's new reiteration of their 250i which looks like a pretty good deal. To make it run 0.045 I'd need to purchase an aftermarket 0.045 MIG gun and flip the drive rollers around (which isn't a problem) but at the end of the day, the 250i has no pulse setting on any function. Bummer.

So I circled back to Everlast's MTS275 lightning machine. Everlast's specs are better than the Multimatic 255, basically offering water-cooling (which I'll never use) and AC Tig (which I would use), but I'm hesitant because the machine is just expensive enough to make it a real investment (base is about $2500) and I know nothing about the support. Worse, I have no local dealer to throw the thing though their window if it breaks or stinks.


Again, I can always stick weld my project but this is my "opportunity" to justify another welder and expand my welding horizons. What do you guys think?
 
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   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #36  
You can have de M division of ITW all to yerself far as I care. Dey got very good EEOC numbers built on number of skirts dey hire. Seems skirts get you higher den military vets, and dey got lovely fake motorcycle in lobby.

You got funny places you look for welder too, Eastwood real good fer Bondo but der machines Chinkanesium like Horrible Fright.

Why you not talk to HTP I wondering?

Wonder too why you think you never use water cooling?
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #37  
If you want a good pulsed mig read, Look up the 320SP on the ESAB site. It's a LORCH product (Germany) that was the top line Thermal Arc machine family. You can set it up exactly like an AC/DC Tig machine only it's Mig. Twin pulse is amazing and the machine does all the thinking for you. I'm not pitching for ESAB, Far From it. There are a lot of options out there including lower cost pre-owned for a fraction of new. I own one as well as a Lorch 301i Tig setup. Miller and Lincoln have done well to keep the European and Japanese technology out of the USA. ie: Lorch, Fronius and OTC. They are all Miles ahead of anything from Red or Blue. However, any pulse machine is probably better than no pulse machine.
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders?
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#38  
I called Everlast and their inside sales guy was blowing a gasket that I compared a Miller 255 with an Everlast MTS 275. He couldn't get his head around that I was comparing features by price points over perceived quality of customer service and told me to buy the Miller 255. I called to simply inquire about pricing and talked to a guy looking for a fight with no conflict management skills. As a guy who once was outside sales, wow!
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #39  
I called Everlast and their inside sales guy was blowing a gasket that I compared a Miller 255 with an Everlast MTS 275. He couldn't get his head around that I was comparing features by price points over perceived quality of customer service and told me to buy the Miller 255. I called to simply inquire about pricing and talked to a guy looking for a fight with no conflict management skills. As a guy who once was outside sales, wow!

Tell you someting bout what to expect when machine need service?

I'm with Yo on de Fronius, but I sure ain't cookin enough wire any more to cost justify machine.
ESAB & TD both part of same holding company based on what I reading. TD crapped out bad when dey went from black & Gray to purple. Brilliant beancounter management lost a lot of Hobart Bros information and dey scrapped all de Hobart parts rather den sort & sell. TD 1gun was head & shoulders ahead for a while, think dey lost dat advantage too.

Little red guy got fine reputation all over and management knows what dey talkin. Whole industry been playin MBA last 15 years and crash about due to come.
 
   / 220V Plused spray MIG welders? #40  
This ^ ^ ^ pretty well clears it up for me. ;) There's always a simple explanation.
 

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