3320, 485 BH order is in!

[sunnyside360]

In addition to better Cruise Control function, the Automotive Cruise Control option provides three additional buttons that allow direct access to "SpeedMatch" - "MotionMatch" & "LoadMatch" functions. See section "Operating - Machine" in the online manual to determine if direct control of those features would ever be of use. Upfront cost is in $100 range

Cinder, I agree. Those additional functions for around $100 are well worth the money. The capability is already there so all you are really paying for are the switches. That's why I bought them.

 

[Rob-D]

OK, I'm in, I'll get my guy to add it on.

dealer agreed, it's added!

 

[Spudland_Dave]

MY dealer was told 2 mos. by the factory so I guess things are easing up.

I'm wondering why more buyers haven't gone with the bigger R4's?

IME, My Dealer likes to promise long, and deliver short...which is the way things should be done.

My only explanation for the R4 issue is most buyers might see it as just a size upgrade...IMO, not only are you upgrading size, but you're also getting a much better tire/tread design. Add to that, some buyers might be saying "i'm already 30k deep, I'm gonna have to start cutting where I can"...

Cruise..A1 on adding it. I havent had it, but recently I've wanted it. This spring I used the standard cruise for the first time to till the garden and wow is it nice, only thing I hated was there is no resume, etc... so next time i'm at the dealer I'll be ordering the enhanced cruise.

 

[Rob-D]

Dave, I checked the specs on the tires and what I found was that the bigger tires are 4 ply (rear), 6ply (front) and the smaller 6 ply (rear & front). The smaller tires have about 700 lbs per tires more load capacity in the rear but the front tires have less load capacity than the bigger tires in front.

My thinking is that the bigger tires are better if you do a lot of loader work or heavy front implements and, since the front tires are bigger with a nicer tread pattern they are most likely better in snow and mud.

I think the cruse is something I would have missed if not for the guys here. I really did my homework on this tractor and added things like the cruse, 485 hoe and bigger tires. I'm going to try and work a 3x20 series with both tire sizes to make sure I made the right decision. My only concern is how much more stable, if at all, the smaller tires are.I wonder if anyone has experience with both tire sizes?

http://manuals.deere.com/cceomview/OMLVU19809_L8/Output/Index.html?tM=HO
Rob

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

That's correct the smaller r4's are higher load rated. So not sure where Dave is getting his info. I also read something awhile back about the hoe needing the smaller r4's for the additional weight capacitys.

Matt

 

[Rob-D]

I just went by a dealer where there was a 3320 with the larger tires next to a 3005 with the standard tires. The big tires are BIG (you're right Dave). I also just received an email from Deere.
Here are the rops heights (No cab).

small R4's = 91.8"
large R4's = 92.5

Both just fit under my 8 foot door but the smaller R4's will be a better bet. (winter ice on door sill plate)

I also asked Deere if one tire was more stable or they were both about the same. Here's their reply:

"In regards to stability, the smaller tire is going to keep the machine at a lower center of gravity, so that may be the correct choice. Also, these are 2-position wheels and it would be helpful to have them installed in the wide position for increased stability."

Rob

 

[Nuru]

I have the small R4s and I run Turf Specials and they are wider than the R4's. They increased my stability quite a bit.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

That's correct the smaller r4's are higher load rated. So not sure where Dave is getting his info. I also read something awhile back about the hoe needing the smaller r4's for the additional weight capacitys.

Matt

Well, I did preface my statement with IMO, never claimed it to be fact based on numbers and data...thats just how I feel. Obviously I feel they are better tires if I paid for them! :laughing:
I prolly shoulda said.."for me and my tractor, these are much better tires".

I will say this..I dont know if its my soil or what, but I had the expectation of them balling up with mud, being slippery in the snow, etc....from both family members and reading threads here on TBN....(one uncle hated his R4's so bad he traded the tractor in with only 15 hours on it for the same thing with Turfs)... but I can honestly say thats not the case for me & my tires. SO IMO the tread design on the Galaxy Marathoners (aka Large R4's) is superior to that of the "normal R4" tread design. I put these tires in a performance class between R1's and R4's...if that makes any sense. Thats what my dealer explained them as when I was shopping, and after 130 hours, I'd agree with him...My first question to him was "why do I need to PAY for reduced weight capacity"... Less Ply = Softer Tire = Better in the dirt & snow. Spec Wise, the large R4's ARE really between the R1 and Small R4's. If I blow a tire out because I max out my tractors rear capacity (specs are for single tire) of 6262 lbs, I got bigger problems then the tires :laughing:


From JD Manual:

Tire Loads
NOTE: Maximum load capacity for single tire.
Front (7.00-14 6PR R1 GA) 430 kg (948 lb)
Front (27x8.50-15 6PR R3 GA) 750 kg (1654 lb)
Front (27x8.50-15 6PR R4 GA) 750 kg (1654 lb)
Front (25x8.50-14 6PR R4 GA) 620 kg (1367 lb)
Front (25/10.50LL-15 6PR GOLF GA) 700 kg (1543 lb)
Rear (11.2-24 6PR R1 GA) 990 kg (2183 lb)
Rear (41x14.00-20 4PR R3 GA) 1490 kg (3285 lb)
Rear (43x16.00-20 4PR R4 GA) 1420 kg (3131 lb)
Rear (15.00-19.5 6PR R4 GA) 1790 kg (3946 lb)
Rear (41LLx18-16.1 6PR Golf GA) 1990 kg (4387 lb)


Again, totally my opinion, totally from my point of view.

 

[Rob-D]

Well I called my dealer today and told him they would be tight on my garage door. He said it's hard to switch things around once an order is in with Deere but he'd give it a shot. Either way I doubt I'll go wrong with the tires I get. As far as the hoe with the big tires, well if you look at the brochures from Deere they show the 448 hoe with the big tires and mine was originally set up with the big tires and the hoe and Deere never kicked it out as not compatible.
By the way Dave, I always thought the big tires would have better traction. I guess I could run them in the widest position. What do they normally come to the buyer as?
As far as the Standard R4's, I've had them before and always considered them the worst of both worlds. Not good at all in the mud and ok but not great on the lawn. Most times I get chains but i figured I'd give the big guys a whirl to see if they are any better. I notice they run them soft, like 12 or 15 lbs as opposed to 30 forthe smaller guys.

Rob

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Like I said the rear R4's are rated for more. But according to the chart Dave posted seem's like such a small amount wouldn't matter much. I've also seen the deere adds with a 448 on the larger r4's. Deere's funny that way, before they released the cab compatible 485 there was a video of a cabbed 4000 series with a 448 on it so I wouldn't obsess too much over it. As for the traction between the two I can't comment on the larger but the smaller do ok. If I didn't ever drive on my lawn I'd get r1's for sure. The larger r4's look like they'd ride smoother on hard surfaces. I don't think you'll regret going with them.

Matt