3320 vs L3800

[NYBOB]

A neighbor is looking to buy a tractor about my size, I have a 3720. He wants a loader, backhoe and 6 foot finish mower. He has a quote from Kubota on the L3800 at about $26,000. I am confused on what backhoe I should configure for the 3320.

Even taking 15% off (which is what I got when I bought my 3720 in 2007) the JD is about $ 4,000 more. Does this sound right? Is the L3800 a fare tractor to compare the 3320 to?

Also, the old website would let you compare other tractors, I don't see that feature anymore. It was really handy.

Also, I got my paper work out and the 3720 has gone up over $3,000 since 2007, seems like quite an increase.

Any input on the L3800 would be great.....I do not know that much about the Kubota line.

Thanks
bob

 

[dfkrug]

Is the L3800 a fare tractor to compare the 3320 to?

I would compare the Kubota L3240 to the JD 3320. Both are deluxe
models, and both companies have "budget" lines.

 

[teg]

3038E would compare with the L3800 as per kubota's comparison... (L3800 has a jerky 3ph that your friend should test out)

 

[sunnyside360]

I agree with dfkrug above, the Kubota L3240 is closer to JD 3320 for comparison.
WOW, I didn't realize JD 3720 price have gone up that much since 2007 --- abut 10%.

 

[NYBOB]

3038E would compare with the L3800 as per kubota's comparison... (L3800 has a jerky 3ph that your friend should test out)

Where can I find the comparison chart on the 3240 vs the 3320? What are the big differences between the 3038E and the 3320? I know he wants HST.



Thanks
Bob

 

[NYBOB]

Does the 3038E have a backhoe available? I could not find one when I configured it on the JD website.

 

[teg]

Where can I find the comparison chart on the 3240 vs the 3320? What are the big differences between the 3038E and the 3320? I know he wants HST.

http://kubota.com/assets/product/comps/L40/Grand-L40-Series-comps.pdf

hope it helps...

 

[JiminGa]

no backhoe available for the 3032/3038e tractors, you have to get the xx20's to get a hoe

 

[JDGreenGrass]

no backhoe available for the 3032/3038e tractors, you have to get the xx20's to get a hoe

Not true....

http://www.embmfg.com/File.aspx?id=299cadb9-9008-4c01-b48d-ec6d1f2094d5

I haven't seen one of these mentioned here at TBN and, it is true that Deere doesn't offer a BH for these tractors. However, it looks like there is one available through Wallenstein.

 

[LD1]

The kubota is a very fine tractor if he can live without some of the bells and whistles and deal with the hitch. It is a quick way to save some cash since JD doesnt offer the hoe on the economy line.

But IF the bells and whistles are what he is after, I agree with others that you need to compair to the L3240 or L3540.

And it looks like the 3320 deere falls right in the middle between the 3240 and 3800.

The deere 3320 is about 300 lbs heavier and has about 500lbs more lift capacity on the FEL and 3ph vs the 3800.

But the 3240 is about 500lbs heavier and has more lift capacity front and rear than teh 3320.

The BH's, on paper appear to be about the same for all the models.

I'd expect the price of the 3240 to be closer to that of the 3320. But I think right now, he needs to decide if a "deluxe" model is worth the extra $4k

 

[LD1]

Not true....

http://www.embmfg.com/File.aspx?id=299cadb9-9008-4c01-b48d-ec6d1f2094d5

I haven't seen one of these mentioned here at TBN and, it is true that Deere doesn't offer a BH for these tractors. However, it looks like there is one available through Wallenstein.

Not sure I'd want to put an aftermarket hoe on a tractor that the MFG doesnt. There must be a reason deere didnt offer one? Would adding that BH void the warrenty???

 

[NYBOB]

The kubota is a very fine tractor if he can live without some of the bells and whistles and deal with the hitch. It is a quick way to save some cash since JD doesnt offer the hoe on the economy line.

But IF the bells and whistles are what he is after, I agree with others that you need to compair to the L3240 or L3540.

And it looks like the 3320 deere falls right in the middle between the 3240 and 3800.

The deere 3320 is about 300 lbs heavier and has about 500lbs more lift capacity on the FEL and 3ph vs the 3800.

But the 3240 is about 500lbs heavier and has more lift capacity front and rear than teh 3320.

The BH's, on paper appear to be about the same for all the models.

I'd expect the price of the 3240 to be closer to that of the 3320. But I think right now, he needs to decide if a "deluxe" model is worth the extra $4k

What do you mean "deal with the hitch"?

 

[mguitas]

Not true....

http://www.embmfg.com/File.aspx?id=299cadb9-9008-4c01-b48d-ec6d1f2094d5

I haven't seen one of these mentioned here at TBN and, it is true that Deere doesn't offer a BH for these tractors. However, it looks like there is one available through Wallenstein.

Wallenstein make a good backhoe too, i have a gx620 for my massey.

 

[TripleR]

Try this:Products comparable to 3038E Compact Tractor (37.1 hp)

 

[LD1]

What do you mean "deal with the hitch"?

Do a search for L3400 (predecessor to the L3800) jerky 3PH and you shall have days on end of reading.

I have heard that the L3800's are better, but still worth testing it out before buying.

 

[JDGreenGrass]

Not sure I'd want to put an aftermarket hoe on a tractor that the MFG doesnt. There must be a reason deere didnt offer one? Would adding that BH void the warrenty???

I suppose one could ask themselves those questions....The way I look at it is Wallenstein has a good brand. Good equipment. Why would they offer a hoe that is going to wreck the tractor.??:confused2:

I might add this, Deere built those tractors to be capable and affordable. If having the hoe as an option raises costs...they might have eliminated that idea.

 

[LD1]

I suppose one could ask themselves those questions....The way I look at it is Wallenstein has a good brand. Good equipment. Why would they offer a hoe that is going to wreck the tractor.??:confused2:

I might add this, Deere built those tractors to be capable and affordable. If having the hoe as an option raises costs...they might have eliminated that idea.

That is why IF they offered it, it would be an option, as to NOT add to the cost for someone who doesnt want it.

Now I would have no problem putting an aftermarket BH on a tractor that was offered from the manufacture with the BH as an option,

But there HAS to be a reason deere didnt offer it. And I dont buy into it being price related. Because as I said, for someone who doesnt want the BH, it wouldnt add to the cost and it would still be an affordable package.

Does anyone know how the rear end is setup on the 3032 and 3038. Are they perhaps cast aluminum instead of cast iron and maybe that is why??? They are almost a FULL 1000lbs ligher (~30%) than the 3320. And even 500 lbs lighter than the notoriously light kubota 3400/3800 series

And aftermarket companies make parts all the time that will void a MFG warrenty. Wether it be tractors, cars/trucks, etc. And I see this being the case. I would want to make CERTAIN that deere will still honor the warrenty if one is seriously considering putting a BH on a 3032/3038

 

[JDGreenGrass]

That is why IF they offered it, it would be an option, as to NOT add to the cost for someone who doesnt want it.

Now I would have no problem putting an aftermarket BH on a tractor that was offered from the manufacture with the BH as an option,

But there HAS to be a reason deere didnt offer it. And I dont buy into it being price related. Because as I said, for someone who doesnt want the BH, it wouldnt add to the cost and it would still be an affordable package.

Does anyone know how the rear end is setup on the 3032 and 3038. Are they perhaps cast aluminum instead of cast iron and maybe that is why??? They are almost a FULL 1000lbs ligher (~30%) than the 3320. And even 500 lbs lighter than the notoriously light kubota 3400/3800 series

And aftermarket companies make parts all the time that will void a MFG warrenty. Wether it be tractors, cars/trucks, etc. And I see this being the case. I would want to make CERTAIN that deere will still honor the warrenty if one is seriously considering putting a BH on a 3032/3038

Ya, I see your point now.:thumbsup:

The last line of your post says it all.

 

[ChuckinNH]

"Also, I got my paper work out and the 3720 has gone up over $3,000 since 2007, seems like quite an increase."

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[ctlguy]

That is why IF they offered it, it would be an option, as to NOT add to the cost for someone who doesnt want it.

Now I would have no problem putting an aftermarket BH on a tractor that was offered from the manufacture with the BH as an option,

But there HAS to be a reason deere didnt offer it. And I dont buy into it being price related. Because as I said, for someone who doesnt want the BH, it wouldnt add to the cost and it would still be an affordable package.

Does anyone know how the rear end is setup on the 3032 and 3038. Are they perhaps cast aluminum instead of cast iron and maybe that is why??? They are almost a FULL 1000lbs ligher (~30%) than the 3320. And even 500 lbs lighter than the notoriously light kubota 3400/3800 series

And aftermarket companies make parts all the time that will void a MFG warrenty. Wether it be tractors, cars/trucks, etc. And I see this being the case. I would want to make CERTAIN that deere will still honor the warrenty if one is seriously considering putting a BH on a 3032/3038

Actually I believe it is very much price related, to add the option of a hoe 4 point mounting plates would need to be designed to fit that specific tractor as well as the fact that the 3000 e's do not have power beyond capability. The E was created as a Kubota fighter as a simple loader tractor. I know of a couple of e's with hoes on them, no problems have occured. 1 unit is the basic three point mount and another with a wallenstein hoe using the 4 point plates, both powered off of pto pumps. This was the same for its predecessor the 3203. The backhoe mount plates do not rely exclusivly on the rear axle, browse some of the aftermarket hoe websites like wallenstein and woods and you can see the mounting plates. To really know for sure the pricing question we would need exclusinve info like what is the take rate on any 3000 series tractors with hoes, or the take rate on hoes being put on advantage tractors like the 4105 (that is hoe capable). If these #'s are low designing an att as expensive as a hoe to fit could be just throwing $ out the window.