3point down pressure

[fuseboxer]

I bought a used John Deere 4410 and assumed it was a modern machine that had downward hydrolic power on the three point. I sold an old poor mans Deere an 880 Oliver and it had about 4000lb down or up. Is mine broke or do all JD4410 have no 3-point down power. The Oliver could pick up the rear tires with a garden box or blade etc. attached. --fuseboxer

 

[DK35vince]

I don't know of any makes or models of compact tractor that has down pressure on the 3 point..

 

[Jdman4x20]

Most newer units including the 4410 will not have down pressure on the 3 point hitch.
Hope this helps.

 

[sweettractors]

The Belarus Russian tractor had down pressure. Not any current production tractors, that I can think of does have? Ken Sweet

 

[fuseboxer]

I am shocked that it does not have the ability to lift the back tires off the ground. The engineering design was there 50 years ago.

 

[bcp]

The Oliver could pick up the rear tires with a garden box or blade etc. attached.

I bet it didn't pull very well that way!

Several times I wish I had down pressure to force a scarifier under a rock, etc.

Bruce

 

[sweettractors]

I am shocked that it does not have the ability to lift the back tires off the ground. The engineering design was there 50 years ago.

Many of those old tractors just used a hydraulic cylinder to raise and lower. Not much tech about that. Tech is using 3 point with draft control to make the implement take the ground. Many of the new CUTS dont have that feature. All should have. Ken Sweet

 

[bennatti]

My 56 IH Utility 300 did have down pressure and would lift the rear (with loaded tires) off the ground...it was handy for putting on the Canadian Chains.

 

[sweettractors]

My 56 IH Utility 300 did have down pressure and would lift the rear (with loaded tires) off the ground...it was handy for putting on the Canadian Chains.

What did you do for draft control when plowing? Ken Sweet

 

[bennatti]

What did you do for draft control when plowing? Ken Sweet

That particular tractor spent most of its life in the woods....

 

[Brimstone10x]

WOW Iv been workin on tractors at a jd dealership for almost 15 years now and have never even thought of a 3pt hitch havin down psi!!!!!!!!!!. cool idea never seen it . I guess a simple hitch with a doubl acting cyl could do it. but no normal rockshaft type hitch could do it.

 

[bennatti]

BTW....the IH U 300 I mentioned earlier had a 2 pt fast hitch (did have a insert to make it 3 pt....attached is a photo I found on the web...doesn't look exactly like mine but I did sell it over 25 years ago...and my memory may be a bit fuzzy

 

[PapaPerk]

I am shocked that it does not have the ability to lift the back tires off the ground. The engineering design was there 50 years ago.

The engineering is pretty simple. But not needed or wanted in most 3 point hitch applications. The implement usally needs the ability to float... not be rock solild. Solid hitch would be a nightmare when plowing, etc on uneven ground.

Why do you need down pressure anyway? Just curious.

 

[fuseboxer]

540' road to the orchard is only clay throught the woods. With down pressure I could push down and cut and level w/o putting on the garden box. Lazy man, also I am missing a bolt on one of the back wheels and the alignment is slightly off. I used a floor jack and loosened the bolts to try to get a few mm movement to get the bolt in but failed. I believe the back tires may be heavier than I want to wrestle with, probably loaded. I have a quick hitch that has never been on a tractor and may try it but I have too many other more pressing house to do jobs. If I could set the height of a blade or gardenbox and not float I could level out the crushed limestone pad approx 80' x 80' and 18" thick. A good tractor man could do it but for me I do a poor job. Without a 3' contractor rake it would not look as good as it does. I finish and start again because of a low spot that catches water. ---Fuseboxer

 

[fuseboxer]

The deluxe feature of a large 880 Oliver includes a switch to have down pressure or turn off the switch and it floats. Fusebuster