3pt Log winch/grapple

[Jim Timber]

:laughing::laughing:
I have hughesnet for internet service:laughing:
It would take :laughing:years:laughing:to upload:laughing:

Better get started then! :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

Part one of the winch dilemma solved. I just got off the horn with Ramsey and they confirmed the 8 GPM requirement of the SCH 4900 (on their website it says 8 in one spot and 13 in a different). They also confirmed that freespool can be added with a couple parts from one of the 8000 series. Sounds super simple to do and they even gave me the part number (276052). Loosen one set screw and remove another then pull one piece out with a magnet. Screw in the new plunger, check for 7/16" clearance at one spot and tighten the first set screw back up. With this info, I have found me a winch and I can make allowances within the design of the frame much easier than with a PTO winch :cool2:

Tomorrow I'll try calling a local dealer to see how much out of my budget it is.

That's all good news!!! Anxious to see the end result!!!

 

[ovrszd]

Better get started then! :thumbsup:

I'm with Jim. I'd like to see some action shots as well. Very interesting tool.

 

[Jim Timber]

CDN Farm Boy, I'm also curious how this works out. If I knew with certainty that the hydraulic winches could pull at a respectable line speed I would've bought one and built something instead of getting the Wally.

The Ramsey 8K that I looked at said their flow demand was 16gpm, and my tractor only produces 60% of that.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

CDN Farm Boy, I'm also curious how this works out. If I knew with certainty that the hydraulic winches could pull at a respectable line speed I would've bought one and built something instead of getting the Wally.

The Ramsey 8K that I looked at said their flow demand was 16gpm, and my tractor only produces 60% of that.

Jim, I looked at all kinds of alternatives before buying my FX90, and as I already own two winches that could be powered with hydraulics and a few more electric ones. Plus, like you I also have a decent shop with welders ect.., I couldn't and still don't see how anyone could build a winch that would be with in a hundred miles of a skidding winch without spending very close to the same money!

Sure, I could have made something that would work, but you have to give up waaaaaay too much in performance compared to a real skidding winch...

I didn't want something that would just work, I wanted something that would actually be useful to get tree's and logs out in a timely manner and be efficient... SO, I think YOU by far made the right decision in buying your Wallenstein.

And now that you have used your winch for a while, you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about, they are money well spent!

SR

 

[Jim Timber]

Putting an electric valve on a hydraulic winch is a lot easier than reconfiguring the mechanical clutch engagement on the Wally though. :laughing:

I have no regrets about my FX85. I do wish it was easier to rig for a remote option. I'm not giving them $2K for theirs.

 

[Rustyiron]

I'm with Jim. I'd like to see some action shots as well. Very interesting tool.

I don't have any videos but a winch is a winch, the grapple is the fun part. I have 711 ac. of woods with a couple of miles of various degree (condition) of roads. I don't like to drag on the better roads unless it's frozen. The grapple and the way the winch is built allow me to have the butt end in the air 'bout 4-6' depending on if it's in grapple or on the chokers, saving my roads. Depending on the log, I can haul it off the ground completely. Big one's need to be shorter, but smaller one's can be 30' long. That big pine log needed to come down, it was hit by lightning and I didn't want the wood to go to waste, but all of my regular cutting is just thinning for firewood. No big "sticks" like Rob hauls.

 

[Jim Timber]

I've seen those pics. This is 2016 and we want action videos!

What kind of line speed are you getting out of your winch?

 

[Rustyiron]

Man you're hard on me I'll work on it, just don't hold your breath. The tractor is back in snowplow mode right now.
CNDfarm looked the winch up at just under a foot per second at rated flow on the first wrap. I'm happy at an idle or a little above on my tractor. It seems like half the time I'm yanking out hang-ups, or dodging stumps, rocks because I'm thinning. I just like making things that work, I sure as heck don't save any or much money:laughing: I never really added things up, but I can think of close to $5k in components and hoses real quick! Nothing for my time, welding wire, grinding wheels, etc.:confused2: The grapple & rotator and related diverter valves & hoses was well over half of that, but it's pretty cool to grab it, drag it, & drop it from the tractor seat.

 

[Jim Timber]

Uploading my 6 minute stump grinder video took something like 9 hours from my property on a 4g lte signal (ha!). We're 5 miles from the tower. So I do feel your pain. I just tell it to send it and then go about doing my thing until it's done. My phone is the only internet we have up there. In the metro at home, it'd take about 5 minutes tops. The 13 minute tractor tour was longer yet.

I don't really care what Ramsey claims for line speed. I want to see it pulling a big log and compare that to how my PTO driven winch pulls.

I should go poke around youtube some more and see if there's any videos. The regular recovery winches are painful to watch when guys make skidders out of them. Yawn... I've got work to do! I can't handle logs moving slower than my 5 o'clock shadow growing in.