Oil & Fuel A quick 5 gallon fuel container rant

[LBrown59]

Pegasus -Fuel Pumps

Performance Electric Fuel Pumps

Those pumps are way to slow.
It would take one of them 22 minutes to fill my Bx23 5.5 gallon tank.

I just got one of these on sale the other day for $69. www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/109585_lg.gif
It will fill my tractor tank in 1.05 minutes.

Northern Industrial Diesel Fuel and Oil Transfer Pump 12 Volt DC, 5.25 GPM | DC Powered Pumps | Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[wedge40]

will the diesel pumps work with gas?

Wedge

 

[flINTLOCK]

Most diesel pumps will not be safe for gas, I've been told.

 

[Builder]

I like the idea of the Northern Tool pump, but it's more difficult to remove the battery cover to get access to the battery and to clip the battery clips on the terminals than it's worth.

What would be a great improvement would be a 2 pin flat plug prewired on my batteries into my battery box that would plug into a 2 pin flat connector on the pump. THAT would be the ticket.

 

[LBrown59]

I like the idea of the Northern Tool pump, but it's more difficult to remove the battery cover to get access to the battery and to clip the battery clips on the terminals than it's worth.

What would be a great improvement would be a 2 pin flat plug prewired on my batteries into my battery box that would plug into a 2 pin flat connector on the pump. THAT would be the ticket.

I never intended to use the tractor battery.
I have a couple of electric train transformers from toy trains back in the 50s and 60s.
You know like the Lionel Trains used!
All I have to do is clip the 2 pump clips onto the 2 transformer terminals and turn the pump switch on.
To fill the tractor tank all I need to do is plug the transformer cord into an electrical wall outlet in the pole building and start filling the tractor tank.
Once the tank's filled simply unplug the transformer from the wall plug.
I just tried one of the transformers out and it works great as a power source for the pump.

A 110 to 12 volt transformer from Radio Shack or Walmart would work for a power source for the pump also.
You could wire the transformer 12 volt outlet wires directly to the pump wires or you could install some sort of mating connector such as the 2 pin plug / connector you mention if you desire to be able to disconnect the pump and transformer from each other.
I would leave the pump switch on and just unplug the transformer from the wall plug after each use.

 

[Builder]

I never intended to use the tractor battery.
I have a couple of electric train transformers from toy trains back in the 50s and 60s.
You know like the Lionel Trains used!
All I have to do is clip the 2 pump clips onto the 2 transformer terminals and turn the pump switch on.
To fill the tractor tank all I need to do is plug the transformer cord into an electrical wall outlet in the pole building and start filling the tractor tank.
Once the tank's filled simply unplug the transformer from the wall plug.
I just tried one of the transformers out and it works great as a power source for the pump.

A 110 to 12 volt transformer from Radio Shack or Walmart would work for a power source for the pump also.
You could wire the transformer 12 volt outlet wires directly to the pump wires or you could install some sort of mating connector such as the 2 pin plug / connector you mention if you desire to be able to disconnect the pump and transformer from each other.
I would leave the pump switch on and just unplug the transformer from the wall plug after each use.

Nice ideas, but I'm usually refueling on the jobsite, so I need a portable power source. I wonder if I could wire the pump to a cig lighter adapter and just run the pump off a cig lighter or 12V accessory outlet.

That would make it all worthwhile to lug that extra junk around in my truck.

 

[bialecki]

Nice ideas, but I'm usually refueling on the jobsite, so I need a portable power source. I wonder if I could wire the pump to a cig lighter adapter and just run the pump off a cig lighter or 12V accessory outlet.

That would make it all worthwhile to lug that extra junk around in my truck.

Yes you can adapt it to a cigarette lighter if this is convenient for you. Typically the lighter has a 20 amp fuse in line which is plenty for the Northern diesel fuel pump.

 

[Builder]

Yes you can adapt it to a cigarette lighter if this is convenient for you. Typically the lighter has a 20 amp fuse in line which is plenty for the Northern diesel fuel pump.

Yeah, but what about splicing the wires? I would need to somehow cut the battery clamps off the pump, then adapt the wires to a 12V accessory plug.

 

[LBrown59]

Nice ideas, but I'm usually refueling on the jobsite, so I need a portable power source. I wonder if I could wire the pump to a cig lighter adapter and just run the pump off a cig lighter or 12V accessory outlet.

That would make it all worthwhile to lug that extra junk around in my truck.

I don't see why you couldn't.

 

[LBrown59]

Yeah, but what about splicing the wires? I would need to somehow cut the battery clamps off the pump, then adapt the wires to a 12V accessory plug.

You could simply cut the clamps off the pump wires strip both wires then cut the plug off the accessory end of the cig lighter accessory outlet wires, not the plug that you plug into the cig lighter socket but the smaller plug for the accessory.
Next twist I pump wire and 1 accessory wire together and tape with electrical tape,
Now do the same with the other 2 wires.
This would more or less be a permanent connection between the pump and the accessory outlet.
If you want to rig it up for easy separation of the pump and the cig lighter accessory outlet simply install any mating female and mail plugs one on the accessory outlet wires and the other on the pump wires.
You could buy a mail and a female extension cord plug and install one on the pump wires and the other one on the accessory outlet wires.
Here is a crude but workable way to connect the pump wires to the accessory outlet wires.
Simply put 2 alligator clamps on the accessory outlet wires.
Tale a short piece of 2x4 or 2x6 and put 2 wood screws in the board leaving them stick up and inch or two.
Clip an alligator clip to the bottom of each screw then clamp the pump clamps to the screws above the alligator clamps.