B2320, B2620, and B2920

[seapea]

I was real close to buying a B7610 2.5 years ago. I bailed because I couldn't justify the cost at the time, and local dealers just quoted MSRP. I've gotten the itch again with the B2620 release, so I called a local dealer and got a quote of $15,900 for a B2620 + 364FEL, including tax and delivery. This also includes free labor on the 50hr service. I know it's not one of the better offers posted, but it's $1200 cheaper than the B7610+352FEL quote I got 2.5 years ago, and this is a better tractor. The dealer said I could take delivery of it this week, and I'm really tempted...

Chris

 

[ChuckinNH]

It does sound tempting! Actually that price you got with taxes doesn't sound bad here in New England. I was quoted $15,000 even for a B2620 with the LA364 loader.... no extras, no loaded tires, bucket hooks, etc. Sure hope that helped the temptation go away!!

NH doesn't have any sales taxes...

 

[SnowRidgeME]

a guy can only bear researching and pricing for so long...

I here you there. I was the same way. I'm very pleased with my decision. Congrats! You'll love it. Didn't know they offered arm-rests. I'll have to think on that one, need to stop spending for now... Sorry can't help you with the box blade.

 

[mcrame01]

The armrests were a funny thing. I was talking with the dealer and I asked if it was possible to add armrests and how much it would cost. He looked at the back of the seat and said that the seat already has the mounts for the armrests. He walked over and pulled a couple of arm rests off of a shelf and said "I'll put these on for you for free." He said they had been sitting there for a while and hadn't been used. They looked new. I talked to him on the phone and he said that they mounted just fine and looked good. I guess it never hurts to ask.

 

[qed-cat225]

Here are a few pics.

Yes, the B7800 is a good machine, at around $1800 less than the B3030. It just is missing some of the bells & whistles, but would run circles around the B2920. Same size as the B3030.

did you confirm if you can get a larger loader width on the 29XX, I have only heard Emerich say so, dealers here in WI are still clueless about these units

 

[lawn_king]

That's what Kubota is known for - strong, lightweight machines. Goes back to their rice paddy roots.

Try this link to see how it's a true TLB setup: Fiser Truck & Tractor: Agriculture: Kubota B23220, B2620, B2920 Diesel Tractors - BH65 Backhoe

This is why i use kubota, most of my work is on pristine turf where i need lots of power with very little footprint.

 

[kody632]

Can someone explain the difference between the position control and the quarter inching valve. I'm debating on between the 7800, 2920 and 3030

 

[Ductape]

I'd suggest using the search feature. I don't beleive there is any other tractor feature that has been more hotly debated here.

 

[ChuckinNH]

The quick, and dirty difference is that quarter inching allows fine adjustments from a surface, or a way to slowly lower / raise implements to the height you choose. Position control allows you to set an implements height to a reference number on the tractor, and return to that height over, and over. So, if you were brush hogging, for example, with QI you would eyeball the height of the front of your mower deck each time afer you had raised it to clear an obstacle, if you had PC, you would set the mower height you wanted, and slide the stop to the control lever, and each time you lowered the lever to that stop, the mower would be the same height. Both can work very well for grading, but I like PC much better for things that happen under the ground level..... middle buster, turning plow, etc., and for rotary cutter operation, or other operations that need to happen at a fixed height. Some folks will run a front blade all the way down on their drives, and know if they raise it to "about number 2" it will not gouge the lawn as they push snow back, and that kind of thing.

 

[garydc]

Hi was wondering if anyone has gotten pricing for the new b2X20 series with loader and backhoe in ontario ca. yet ? havent seen any of the new units other than pictures but they look good in print!

 

[gp1200x]

I started out planning to install a geothermal heat pump and digging trenches (well method is too expensive here in NY) by adding a cheap backhoe to my old 2 WD AC 620 for 3-4K. Too much trouble the more I looked into it - 2K rear PTO speed and too much weight probably...Tractor renting was around $1000 week...hate paying for rentals and it puts me under the gun too.

I spent the last two weeks online looking at tractors all night. I went to the name brand dealerships (Deere, MF, NW, Kub, Kioti) but I think the subcompacts are just a little too small...trench needs to be 5-6 feet deep, 2 feet wide and probably 250 - 350 feet long at least. I don't want to spend $15K plus only to destroy it by over taxing it and making the joints sloppy. I've done that and spend a lot of time over the years fixing sloppy joints.

I liked the Deere 2305 but the limited 3 pt turned me off. I have a 5 ft Yrake and 6ft rear blade and want (need) the full travel. My 20HP AC 620 had a Cat 0 that I modified to a Cat 1 and it handled them without problems with plenty of travel and power. It also has a FEL (48") which lifts 500+ and could dig 12" below grade. It weighed 1450, plus 400lb loader and calcium weighted 31x15.50 floatation tires that must weight at least 250lbs each. I need a tractor that can at lease match the performance of what I currently have or I will be upset a nd sorry in the long run.

So I need a TLB which I will add a mower deck to now or eventually with 4WD and PS (wish I had it now). My current 48" lawn mower is fine for now...I only have 3/4 of an acre too. Whatever I get I plan on keeping for 20+ years...had my AC for 18 second hand. I also need to dig out for a 10x50 patio so I have quite a few jobs already planned for it even though my AC could handle.

I'm really starting to think the B2320 or B2620 may be close to the right fit.
I don't want to overbuy but I don't want to spend $15-20K and realize I made a gross mistake. Am I picking the models that will make me happy?

NEXT QUESTION....In NY my tax rate is 8+%. I am thinking of buying one in NHampshire with no tax. It's about 2.5 hours away. My closest Kub is 40 minutes away in NY. I'm not sure a local dealer is worth an extra $1200+ in taxes since I rarely use dealerships for anything unless the problem is major. I would think any dealership has to support it if there is a major malfunction or engine problem. Unfortunately I think my 14.5 ft single axle 3500lb trailer may be too small to transport the 2320 or 2620 models.
Thanks!

 

[qed-cat225]

good luck with the Geo, just put a system in myself for my house

 

[Ductape]

GP1200x, I would say you'd really be pushing it with your single axle trailer. As long as you don't plan to ever register your tractor, i personally like your thoughts on purchasing your tractor over here.

 

[ChuckinNH]

Depending on where you live, Pinnacleview Equipment in Walpole, and Townline Equipment in Plainfield are right on the border with VT, and close to I-91.
lawn & garden equipment, agricultural equipment, outdoor recreational equipment from Kubota, exMark, Polaris and Simplicity : Pinnacleview Equipment, Rt 12 Walpole, NH
Townline Equipment Sales, Inc.

 

[gp1200x]

Thanks for the replies....southwest corner of NHampshire is best so those dealerships are close.

Question...I read that some smaller tractors lack downward pressure on the 3pt hitch. I assume that the BX and B2x20 tractors have this feature but I don't see any reference to it. They have this feature don't they?

Same with the FEL...I assumed that the hydraulics have enough power and design to actually dig down (enough power to actually lift the front end of the tractor off the ground) and lift the front end. I realize these are quick mounts unlike my AC but I assumed they can perform these tasks still. Same thing with the FEL float....I assumed every FEL now has a float position too that allows the loader to float on the ground surface but locks the bucket angle with the hydraulics.

Tell me the B2320 and B2620 have all these please.....

 

[bandit67]

I read that some smaller tractors lack downward pressure on the 3pt hitch. I assume that the BX and B2x20 tractors have this feature but I don't see any reference to it. They have this feature don't they?

NO. I'm not even sure if the L series do this. None of the other mfrs have downward pressure on the 3 pt arms in the smaller compact size either.

Same with the FEL...enough power to actually lift the front end of the tractor off the ground. Same thing with the FEL float....I assumed every FEL now has a float position too that allows the loader to float on the ground surface but locks the bucket angle with the hydraulics.

YES, even the BX FELs can do this.

 

[gp1200x]

Thanks, I didn't realize I would be losing that feature too now.

I went a dealership today and they had no 2320s or 2620s but said they were coming next week along with a BX2660, but there is no BH option for it....?? Why would they do that? I need to see a 2320 or 2620 to compare to the BX24. The B26 is too big for my yard. They had a used B7810 HST standalone (115 hours) for 9500 but it didn't really impress me.

Anyway here is my question...My AC 620 has a double acting cylinder for the rear PTO with a height adjustment and float position. Wherever I place the height of the rear implement, the arms try to hold it in that position regardless of upward or downward forces pushing on the implement. The piston has enough force to actually hold up the back of the tractor if the wheels were to go into a deep rut. With a set position, if my blade or rake mounts a high dirt mound, they try to shear the mount off rather than lift over it. With the single acting piston 3 pt hitch on the BX and B2320 or B2620, do the arms still attempt to keep the implement from lifting up or is it only the weight of the implement that attemtps to stop upward motion and the piston only prevents the arms from lowering below the selected position. I hope this makes sense to you because the two salesman had a hard time understanding what I was asking and said no one makes a dual acting piston hitch for these tractors like the type on my garden tractor.

 

[bandit67]

Because there is now downward hydraulics on these 3 pt setups, there is nothing other than the weight of the 3 pt implement to keep it on the ground. If you encounter something that can push the weight of the implement up, it will go up.

The 3pt lever is only to raise, lower, and keep the implement from dropping lower than where you set it. But those arms will move upward without any damage to them if you encounter an upward force while using an implement, when pulling.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.

 

[gp1200x]

Thanks Bandit....I figured that's what will happen and it puts me back again to adding weight to a blade to rip up dry ground.

I'm really tempted to see if I can make a BH work on my tractor and save 15K

 

[gp1200x]

Anyone have a link to a picture of the rear of a B2320?