daedong
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As a point of interest, here is a link to barb wire history.
http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwirehistory.htm
http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwirehistory.htm
Barbed wire fence
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GRUMPA
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When we did ours it took some thought and heres what I did for the CORNER I have 40 acres and I put in half-way H braces which double as a ladder. Ones just like THIS next to the gates are exactly the same as the mid points. Price for everything was $1,200 complete and alot of sore muscles. The braces are nothing more than 2" angle iron welded together set in a 2' hole with concrete. T-posts were 6' pounded in with a post pounder till the wedge in the bottom of the t-post was flush with the ground. So far we've had 1 bull jump the fence, yep he jumped it. We used a come-a-long to tighten the wire but we did it during warm weather and when it gets cold the wire shrinks a bit and kinda pulls the corner spots. Just remember to just make it snug and not to tight and you'll be fine.
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<font color="blue"> So should I plan on 2 feet in the ground an buy 6 foot t-posts for a 4 foot fence? </font>
For my fence had wood posts set every 100' and T-posts spaced in between the wood posts every 20 feet. The T-posts job is just to hold the wire up -- so I pounded my 7 foot posts in 1 foot to make a height of 6'.
I had to build double-H brackets at each corner because of the height and number of wires I was using (8).
But depending on what you are trying to keep in (or out) and the type of fencing material will dictate what spacing you should use.
For my fence had wood posts set every 100' and T-posts spaced in between the wood posts every 20 feet. The T-posts job is just to hold the wire up -- so I pounded my 7 foot posts in 1 foot to make a height of 6'.
I had to build double-H brackets at each corner because of the height and number of wires I was using (8).
But depending on what you are trying to keep in (or out) and the type of fencing material will dictate what spacing you should use.
txdon
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<font color="blue"> how do you fasten the wire with those U clips and keep it tight? - theboman </font>
Theboman, The u clips have a small "u" on each end. I use a vise grips pliers and bend one of the "u"s on the end so that is it tighter. I put that "u" on the barbed wire on one side of the post and then clamp the vise grips on the other end and go around the steel post and around the wire twice. Then go to the next wire. I use 5 wires for perimeter fence.
The fence looks best if you start with the top wire. Then after the top wire is attached go up and down the fence line with a sledge hammer and even the top of the post up. Then attach the rest of the wires the same distance from the top wire. I use a double H for the corners and use non barbed wire for the diagonal wires. You can use pipe or wood post for the cross brace in the middle of the H. I use a come-along with a wire clamp device to stretch the wire.
Theboman, The u clips have a small "u" on each end. I use a vise grips pliers and bend one of the "u"s on the end so that is it tighter. I put that "u" on the barbed wire on one side of the post and then clamp the vise grips on the other end and go around the steel post and around the wire twice. Then go to the next wire. I use 5 wires for perimeter fence.
The fence looks best if you start with the top wire. Then after the top wire is attached go up and down the fence line with a sledge hammer and even the top of the post up. Then attach the rest of the wires the same distance from the top wire. I use a double H for the corners and use non barbed wire for the diagonal wires. You can use pipe or wood post for the cross brace in the middle of the H. I use a come-along with a wire clamp device to stretch the wire.
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Keep in mind that your braces and corner are keeping the fence tight.. the tposts keep it upright. If I was doing barb wire.. depth isn't as important. With mesh fence.. it will be more important.
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Jimbrown
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Here is my steel corner post. 3 inch steel angle iron 3 feet in the ground set in concrete. This is the most common type of corner post around here. You can buy at any good fence company or feed store. I also have some wood corners but I prefer these as they will be there untill some one pulls it out. I have built about a mile and half of four strand fence in the last 3 months. I put my roll of wire on a pipe and put it in my bucket i can then pull it off as I walk or just back the tractor up and let it spool off. You need a good fence tool. That is a single tool that is a hammer, pliers, cutter, staple puller, wire twister. I strech the wire with my BX. I clamp the wire to the bucket with a pair of vice grips and then slowly back the BX up. You got to be careful are you will pull down the corner post.
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Here is a pic of how I do the C holders to the T post. The purpose of the C holder is to keep the wire from sliding up and down the T post not to keep the wire tight. To install you simply hook the hooked end around the wire and then take your fence tool and wrap the the long end around the wire. Takes about 5 seconds.
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EddieWalker
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Jim,
Thanks for sharing the photo's.
I've never seen corners with angle iron before. It sure looks like less material than two posts and a cross plus wire to hole it all together. Definately worth considering.
Is there a better fencing tool over a not so good one? What should I look for in a fencing tool?
Eddie
Thanks for sharing the photo's.
I've never seen corners with angle iron before. It sure looks like less material than two posts and a cross plus wire to hole it all together. Definately worth considering.
Is there a better fencing tool over a not so good one? What should I look for in a fencing tool?
Eddie
daedong
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Are these not commonly use in the US for driving (star post) There appears to be many refferences to sledge hammers /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
GRUMPA
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They are as far as I know Vin. Although I broke 2 of them at the handle so far from over use.
Mark4510
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Vin,
I have never used the spring loaded pounders like some folks have....only the solid ones. For our soil I think something like that air powered one in your link would take some of the work out of it.
I will have to see if there is something similar here in the states and what the cost is. I have seen the larger ones used in the vinyards but nothing smaller like that.
thanks for sharing.
Mark
I have never used the spring loaded pounders like some folks have....only the solid ones. For our soil I think something like that air powered one in your link would take some of the work out of it.
I will have to see if there is something similar here in the states and what the cost is. I have seen the larger ones used in the vinyards but nothing smaller like that.
thanks for sharing.
Mark
daedong
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Mark,
The solid one like pictured above is still far far easier than a sledge hammer
The solid one like pictured above is still far far easier than a sledge hammer
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( you will need stays )</font>
Yeah, and ask someone to show you how to easily put them on and/or take them off, or else you can learn the hard way like I did. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Yeah, and ask someone to show you how to easily put them on and/or take them off, or else you can learn the hard way like I did. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
ThistleKop
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JimBrown, Like the looks of your post and brace in the photo. Looks as if the brace is bolted to the 3" angle iron post with one bolt, right? Also how is the brace retained at the ground? Do folks in your area use the same post arrangement for web/woven fence. Was wondering if it will stand that much stretching pressure. When you attach the barb wire to the 3" angle iron do you just wrap it and tie it off? I have about 1 1/2 miles of fences to build. A new highway is bisecting my farm. Thanks.
TK
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ThistleKop
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Eddie, The best fencing tool that I have used is the one made by Crescent. It is available at TSC in our area. DO NOT buy the imports from asia. Not worth taking home.
TK
TK
ThistleKop
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Vin, If anyone uses a sledge hammer to drive our T posts they best be wearing safety glasses. Don't ask how I know. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
TK
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ThistleKop
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Byrd, I've had several small calves go thru my 5 strand barb fence. This is especially problematic with new borns. I've never used the stays but I'm interested. Is the instructions for installing them something that you can explain here or does it require "show and tell"? Thanks.
TK
TK
GRUMPA
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The stays come in diferent lenghts. You install them like you would use a corkscrew on a wine bottle. Just to make it easier for me I gave them a lite coat of WD-40 first and they were almost self guiding.
