Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[kenmbz]

I always like it when fast food restaurants say carne, or meat, or steak.
That could make it any USDA inspected animal, including horse or even kangaroo.
We need to make raising animals more efficient to save energy, or harness it better.
My son says the grown meat has a slightly fishy taste with no sauce. I have not tried it yet.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

i don't understand your comment, dogs are the only na indigenous meat animal.

there were lots of meat animals here 12000 years ago, until we showed up and ate most of them.

there are still a few now.

I should have included "domestic" in the sentence.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I always like it when fast food restaurants say carne, or meat, or steak.
That could make it any USDA inspected animal, including horse or even kangaroo.
We need to make raising animals more efficient to save energy, or harness it better.
My son says the grown meat has a slightly fishy taste with no sauce. I have not tried it yet.

I want to a Cajun pizza parlor once that made alligator pizza. Pretty good pie.

 

[/pine]

Lucid Beats Tesla in Range, Going 520 Miles on a Charge, EPA Says

Lucid Motors, a startup automaker, has unseated Tesla, the dominant maker of electric...

www.sfgate.com

 

[Fuddy1952]

Lucid Beats Tesla in Range, Going 520 Miles on a Charge, EPA Says

Lucid Motors, a startup automaker, has unseated Tesla, the dominant maker of electric...

www.sfgate.com

However:
"The Air Dream Edition starts at $169,000 before federal and state incentives, although the company has said it will eventually offer more affordable versions of the Air, including one that will sell for about $77,000."
That has to be factored into the equation when you can buy an ice car for well under $20K, 35-40 mpg, 100K mile/10 year warranty.
All that must be considered, as well as (mark my words) everyone's electric bill increasing (upgrades to grid as demand increases).
There's no free lunch and no pollution free solution.
First the hook ("better" electric vehicles, "free" charging stations, etc.).
Then price increase (pay charging, higher electric bill).

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Lucid Beats Tesla in Range, Going 520 Miles on a Charge, EPA Says

Lucid Motors, a startup automaker, has unseated Tesla, the dominant maker of electric...

www.sfgate.com

Don't fall for click bait nonsense EV articles. Wait until they start competing with Tesla. You may be one of few members to consider an EV in that price range.

As Fuddy menented EVs must be in the $20K price range to be considered as a car to drive to work or to send to college with a kid. This is per Elon Musk of Tesla. This is why Tesla has come out opposed to a new EV cash rebate because it will mainly only go to people who don't need a cash handout.

Today this cash handout will mainly fuel EV imports from China. They are the one with cheap batteries and EVs. GM has actually shutdown EV sales waiting on batteries customers can trust. Free EV cash can't help GM currently. The lions share of any EV cash discounts in the next 5 years will mainly benefit Tesla who currently are selling more they can build. The Cybertruck has over 1,000,000 preorders. Then there's the Semi, etc.

There is NO lack of demand for even higher end EVs. Cash rebates need to wait until there's an inventory 300 mile range in the $15K-$30K price range to meaningful move EVs forward on my view. The most that I have ever paid for a new car is $2,150.00.

$169K cars is ONLY click bate for most of us
.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Climate explained: how much of the world’s energy comes from fossil fuels and could we replace it all with renewables?

The way we use fossil fuels is wasteful and inefficient. A world based on renewable energy would need half as much as we produce now.

theconversation.com

 

[Gale Hawkins]

500 HP Rolls-Royce Electric Aircraft Flies Closer to World Record Attempt

The Rolls-Royce Spirit of Innovation electric aircraft flew for the first time this week marking a major milestone on the road to record attempt

www.autoevolution.com

I am looking to see EVs in the air.

 

[Frankenkubota]

500 HP Rolls-Royce Electric Aircraft Flies Closer to World Record Attempt

The Rolls-Royce Spirit of Innovation electric aircraft flew for the first time this week marking a major milestone on the road to record attempt

www.autoevolution.com

I am looking to see EVs in the air.

funny...rolls is buying the engine/motor from someone else.

 

[Frankenkubota]

I should have included "domestic" in the sentence.

10-4

other than the dog, livestock domestication began in the middle east, first goats and sheep.

the book i read said, for some reason, mother nature concentrated those herd animals in that area and they lend themselves to domestication. domesticated grain got its start there also.

domos is greek for house.....i think.

one great line is......we didn't domesticate agriculture, it domesticated us.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

funny...rolls is buying the engine/motor from someone else.

I think this is typically in the world of EV start ups like Tesla but quickly they realized "If it to be it is up to me".

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Europe's energy crisis is making the market nervous. And analysts expect record-high prices to persist

Spiking energy prices is a hard one to side step and was a key factor in deciding to tap Social Security 8 years later. Spiraling monthly costs was hard on my father's retirement when meds was taking all of his SS check.

 

[MossRoad]

...The most that I have ever paid for a new car is $2,150.00.

$169K cars is ONLY click bate for most of us
.

Please elaborate on the two-thousand dollar new car. Thanks.

 

[lman]

Must have been in 1950.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Please elaborate on the two-thousand dollar new car. Thanks.

I didn't add the AM radio at the time of purchase. In the 200,000 we drove the car we never added AC.

Timing helped because I bought the Datsun 1200 while we were still on the gold standard in March 1973. By October 1973 and off the gold standard the price overnight shot up by $500.

 

[/pine]

...Don't fall for click bait nonsense EV articles...

LMAO....that would include about 98% of all the links posted in this thread....LoL...!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Must have been in 1950.

I think the last $2000 new car went away in the early '60s. My parents bought a new Rambler Classic in 1962 for about $2k. "Old Blue" was the only car we ever named. They gave it to my younger sister when she got married. She and her husband drove it for about 10 years. It ran half a million miles and was still running when they traded it in.

 

[MossRoad]

My dad bought a '70 Nova new for I think $2900.

 

[Fuddy1952]

I think the last $2000 new car went away in the early '60s. My parents bought a new Rambler Classic in 1962 for about $2k. "Old Blue" was the only car we ever named. They gave it to my younger sister when she got married. She and her husband drove it for about 10 years. It ran half a million miles and was still running when they traded it in.

I still have my '66 Rambler American. Window sticker is $1895, it has optional seat belts

 

[cqaigy2]

I still have my '66 Rambler American. Window sticker is $1895, it has optional seat belts

Oh, man i had one of those in the 70's. I don't really remember if it had seat belts. I parted it out after losing the drive line. Bang. Shouldn't complain, i bought it for $5 and an A&W Teen burger. Pretty cool car though, as i found out when a started to take it apart. Unibody construction was one of the things i noted. There was a steady stream of customers restoring Ramblers.