Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[3930dave]

The wisdom behind Elon Musk's announcing his products once they become a reality in his mind is to attract a team that will make them a physical reality.

^ that, and it's also one heck of a self-motivation/pressure technique !

Rgds, D

 

[Jstpssng]

problem with build it here is, among many other issues, the environmental ecological impacts.

quick example.....

denim material is made here, highly automated but made here. blue jeans

they ship the bulk denim to some, quoting the donald, **** hole in SE Asia where the acid stone wash process is hidden so deep in a jungle it takes 2 days to get there.

NIMBY

Yet THAT is what's wrong with our economic strategy, especially when it pertains to a global economy. Rather than shipping our problems (and jobs) overseas, deal with them here and let capitalism work.

My jeans fade quickly enough anyways, I don't need to pay extra for a process to do it.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Inside TSMC, the Taiwanese chipmaking giant that's building a new plant in Phoenix

Taiwan Semiconductor is investing $100 billion to ramp up production during the chip shortage. Its Phoenix plant will bring chip manufacturing back to the U.S.

www.cnbc.com

Since the world runs on chips this is good news even though this is no quick fix. Hopefully the USA can become more dependant on the USA for critical parts.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Yet THAT is what's wrong with our economic strategy, especially when it pertains to a global economy. Rather than shipping our problems (and jobs) overseas, deal with them here and let capitalism work.

My jeans fade quickly enough anyways, I don't need to pay extra for a process to do it.

yea but would you pay $400 for a pair with the front worn out?

i got a few of those i will sell.

 

[Jstpssng]

yea but would you pay $400 for a pair with the front worn out?

i got a few of those i will sell.

I've got the same, which I've been trying to find a market for. Mine are unique, they also have splotches of orange boundary line paint all over them.

 

[Oaktree]

The wisdom behind Elon Musk's announcing his products once they become a reality in his mind is to attract a team that will make them a physical reality.

I'm not sure "wisdom" is the right word here, it's a fine line between what he says/does and hucksterism. Yeah, right now he's the golden boy, but you can only promote vaporware for so long before you lose your cred.

 

[MossRoad]

Made another run from here to Stillwater, OK again this weekend. On the way back I saw two Tesla's. One around Tulsa with a California plate and one around St. Louis with a Florida plate. It's 6 miles short of a 1700 mile round trip for me. I stopped once for gas there, and once on the way back. 20 minutes total in a 25 hour drive. I'll give them the overnighter in the middle, as I had to do that one as well. Gotta wonder how often or where they stopped for juice in their travels?

We averagd 70.0 mph for the 1694 miles. That means we were cruising at 80-85 most of the time, down to 65 in several places, which is exactly 10 over the posted speed limit in all cases.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I'm not sure "wisdom" is the right word here, it's a fine line between what he says/does and hucksterism. Yeah, right now he's the golden boy, but you can only promote vaporware for so long before you lose your cred.

What do you see as an example of "vaporware" by Elon Musk?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Sandy answering a random list of EV related questions.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Every other year, we would attend the International Machine Tool Show at McCormick Place in Chicago. Would catch Amtrack in Racine, WI, and ride it to Chicago. We would snooze, look at the scenery, and watch all the congested traffic we were flying past. The fare was worth every penny. Also loved riding the train in Ireland.

I used to attend IMTS every two years also. It used to be pretty cool for a young man back in the early 80's when young female models were still acceptable.

As far as the train goes, I would bet that Amtrak was losing money on the ticket you bought. They have very few profitable lines.

Kevin

 

[California]

Made another run from here to Stillwater, OK again this weekend. On the way back I saw two Tesla's. One around Tulsa with a California plate and one around St. Louis with a Florida plate. ...1700 mile round trip

I went for my Pfizer booster this morning. In the half mile from home to freeway on-ramp I saw five Teslas. Neighbors on each side, two oncoming, and followed one.

I expect these people charge mostly at home. Maybe at work. And each has a different car, or more likely a 14 mpg SUV or pickup, for road trips like yours.

 

[SylvainG]

Made another run from here to Stillwater, OK again this weekend. On the way back I saw two Tesla's. One around Tulsa with a California plate and one around St. Louis with a Florida plate. It's 6 miles short of a 1700 mile round trip for me. I stopped once for gas there, and once on the way back. 20 minutes total in a 25 hour drive. I'll give them the overnighter in the middle, as I had to do that one as well. Gotta wonder how often or where they stopped for juice in their travels?

We averagd 70.0 mph for the 1694 miles. That means we were cruising at 80-85 most of the time, down to 65 in several places, which is exactly 10 over the posted speed limit in all cases.

This answers your question. They used a Tesla S Plaid, but it has basically the same (348 miles) range as a Model 3 LR (354 miles). Not all EV are alike though. Actually, there are Tesla EVs, and other companies EVs. They are still playing catch-up.

 

[MossRoad]

I went for my Pfizer booster this morning. In the half mile from home to freeway on-ramp I saw five Teslas. Neighbors on each side, two oncoming, and followed one.

I expect these people charge mostly at home. Maybe at work. And each has a different car, or more likely a 14 mpg SUV or pickup, for road trips like yours.

I took last weekend's trip in our 2013 Impala. We averaged 29.4 mpg. Two weeks before I had to make the trip in our 2003 Suburban. Averaged around 16.7.

My 1993 Suburban always got 18 on the highway.

 

[jyoutz]

We also subsidize big oil.

Currently, oil companies pay a fee to taxpayers for drilling on federal lands. Those fees haven’t changed since the 1920s. You can bet that these companies pay much more for drilling on state and private lands. US taxpayers are getting screwed but Congress won’t change the fee schedule. It’s not hard to guess why.

 

[Whidbey]

What do you see as an example of "vaporware" by Elon Musk?

"Full Self Driving ". Anyone without Elon's money would be in a lot of trouble. There have been allegations of fraud regarding this (no lawsuits to my knowledge though). Also there are ongoing investigations by federal agencies regarding traffic deaths related to this feature which seem to be conducted at a very slow pace.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

China owning the world EV market?

There's a side of that which bows me up in the back yet I understand the meaningful USA public are condition to embrace EVs and most other goods produced in China or from parts made in China.

Sam's part of the world depends on China imports of all types.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Annual U.S. coal-fired electricity generation will increase for the first time since 2014 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Black stuff to keep us out of the dark.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

So the Fox embraces the EV

 

[Gale Hawkins]

"Full Self Driving ". Anyone without Elon's money would be in a lot of trouble. There have been allegations of fraud regarding this (no lawsuits to my knowledge though). Also there are ongoing investigations by federal agencies regarding traffic deaths related to this feature which seem to be conducted at a very slow pace.

No doubt Musk's successes has people looking for him to fail.

 

[Jstpssng]

845 miles on a tank... Running on hydrogen, this car set a record of 845 miles between fill-ups