Bent Digging Edge Of B7510 Bucket?

robertm · Jun 10, 2004

I dug in under a bush last night, and curled the bucket to pop it out and all I got was a mild wowee in the digging edge of the bucket. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Very suprised. Will a tooth bar help this, and where is the best place to purchase one without bending over? My use of this tooth bar is very limited, but if it saves me a $600 bucket replacement, I'm for it. Also, will it limit my digging as it will be harder to push into the soil?

Egon · Jun 10, 2004

Get a heavier cutting edge welded on. Say 1/2 in. by 4 in. It will really help stiffen up the bucket.

Egon

surfran · Jun 10, 2004

The toothbars actually make digging easier as the forces are concentrated on the few teeth instead of across the entire bucket edge. This allows the teeth to loosen things up a bit before the entire cutting edge gets "involved" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It makes a real big difference in digging. And they are very easy to remove when you do not want them on as they attach with two bolts on the sides.

riptides · Jun 10, 2004

There are tons of posts on this forum about toothbars.

I'll save you the reading.....

Get one.

I have on on my B, and I don't ever take it off. It does a great job.

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bird · Jun 10, 2004

( Will a tooth bar help this )

Yes.

( will it limit my digging as it will be harder to push into the soil? )

No, quite the opposite, in fact; makes it easier to dig in.

SCB · Jun 10, 2004

Yes! Get the toothbar. Many have made theirs, but I purchased mine. Lots of threads about pricing. Do a search for toothbars.

MFL · Jun 10, 2004

Robertm,

As others have said, for any kind of digging with a FEL, a toothbar is the way to go. It will be one of the most useful attachments you will buy. As to where to get one, the first place you should consider it Markham Welding. Check out www.markhamwelding.com.

After waiting three weeks for a way overpriced bar from my local dealer, I called the folks at Markham. I placed the order on a Monday, they built it and shipped it the same day, and I had it THE NEXT DAY!! Installed it two nights ago, and the difference when digging is amazing.

Quality workmenship, tremendous price, and great people. Can't say enough about the product and the company!!

Do a search here for toothbars or Markham Welding and you'll see that quite of few other guys say the same thing! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Burk · Jun 10, 2004

I stopped at my local Bobcat dealer/rental. They had a used toothbar for $150, It had new teeth on it, but I will have to cut it down for my bucket. I reinforce the top edge with 1 1/2 angle and weld on 3 hooks. I figure I'll have $200 in the project.

Egon · Jun 11, 2004

Okay- everyone recomends a toothbar. This is fine as long as the toothbar is mounted. What hapens if you take it off??

I still say replace the cutting edge with a much heavier one than comes on the small buckets. This way you have a much stronger bucket which is the object. Adding the toothbar for digging is fine but stiffen up the bucket first.

The cutting edge on my bucket wore out and was replaced with one much heavier. That's when the real difference was noticed.

Egon

slowrev · Jun 11, 2004

I reworked my whole bucket. Welded Grader cutting edge up each side and along the bottom. Plus I filled in behind the grader edge on the whole underside of the bucket with 1/2 inch plate to keep the bottom flat. Close to a 3/4 inch thick bottom in the thing now. I got 8 large individual bolt on teeth and put on it. Digs great.

If my bucket gets bent it will be a serious event /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Also I don't ever have to worry about wearing out the bucket bottom dragging it around on rocks and pavement.
Also good for whamming things with /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As others have said the tooth bars are very nice for digging and also stiffen up the front lip a bit., but not as well as welding on some hard heavy steel.

robertm · Jun 11, 2004

Any special typeof steel? Special rod required for welding it on? How about MIG?

Pks · Jun 11, 2004

Robertm,

Are you going to get a new bucket? It sounded like you were thinking about it from your original post.

robertm · Jun 11, 2004

Nah, the "wowee" is just a dip in the cutting edge that I can beat back into place with a sledge hammer (probably a 2-pound hammer is more like it), but I just do not want to re-live the experience. The bend is not really a big deal, it's just that when I scrape the asphalt driveway off, I don't want to scuff it with the dip in the cutting edge. I am contemplating getting a welder soon, and I would like to reinforce the cutting edge, and add some hooks, so this looks like a god project to tackle. Does anybody have some input on where I should locate the new cutting edge to weld on? Under the existing one I assume. What about the new exposed edge of 1/4 or 1/2 plate (bar). That certaily won't help cutting into soil, or am I missing something here?

NIXON · Jun 11, 2004

Robertm
PM Henro . He's got a tooth bar that's very well designed .
The entire cutting edge of it fits over the buckets existing cutting edge . The teeth are then welded to that .
Sorry if the explanation was poor ,and that I don't know the maker of it . But I'm sure Bill ( henro) will help you out with a good description and maybe a PIC or two of it .
The only reson I didn't get one myself was that I wasn't aware of them until AFTER I alredy had a tooth bar of a different make /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif John

Egon · Jun 11, 2004

You cut the old cutting edge of with a torch and then weld on the new one.

Egon

robertm · Jun 11, 2004

Oh !@#$%&! Now I'v got to add TORCHES to my wish list, too? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MadReferee · Jun 11, 2004

The cutting edge on my 60" B2710 bucket is totally worn. I just put a tooth bar over it. Solved that problem for now.

However, had I wanted to change it, my dealer had generic weld-on cutting edge in stock for just over $1.50 per inch (ouch). All I would have to do is grind off the existing weld, remove the worn cutting edge, then weld in the new edge. I choose the tooth bar route.

Egon · Jun 11, 2004

Oh yes and a cutoff saw too.

Egon

Burk · Jun 13, 2004

Good idea. I can get some good used grader blades every once in a while. The ones we use are approx. 6" wide. Did you cut the bucket or place it over or under. Post a picture if you can. Thanks

5030 · Jun 13, 2004

I learned my lesson with Kubota buckets quite a while ago. The material buckets bend at the cutting edge. The last one I had on my 3710 had a hay spear in it most of the time. I broke it numerous times at the left hand edge between the cutting edge and the bucket side. It also had a "smile" in it

Kubota offers "material" buckets and heavy duty "round back excavation" buckets. This time I have the heavy bucket. It's actually a double wall bucket and it doesn't bend. Besides, the cutting edge is high carbon steel. The round back is more money but it's a better bucket by far than the light gage material bucket.