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[Code54]

Where are you all getting your blades from to do the land plane builds?

 

[Gordon Gould]

Where are you all getting your blades from to do the land plane builds?

If you are very lucky you can find them used but usable at an equipment dealer or town/county garage. I was never that lucky. The last ones I got here

Beaver Valley Supply Company - Cutting Edge Chart

Have bought from a tractor dealer too but seemed to be high priced.

gg

 

[fried1765]

I don't think shorter length is too much of a factor for driveways and gravel roads.

Bruce

The length of the machine is just as important for driveways and gravel roads, as it is for any road.
Potholes, and bumps all form similarly in natural surface traveled ways.
When the machine length spans a hump or dip, the belly blade cuts, or fills better, to produce a more even surface.

 

[Egon]

Land plane's just may be designed for different types of work than what is involved in maintaining granular surfaced roads.

On a road surface the materials have to be mixed and then layed back down. The mixing is to enable compaction. Land planes drop the fines on the bottom and scatter the coarser material on the top. This looks real good but ain't what is needed for compaction or a durable surface.

Fried knows what He's talking about!

 

[CADplans]

Where are you all getting your blades from to do the land plane builds?

I went to the CAT dealer, they sell several grades, from cheap to great.
The CAT blade price will surprise you as to how low they are.

CAT had a snow plow edge that would be great at only about $35 each,,
I do not know why CAT sells snow blade replacement edges.

I got 7 foot motor grader blades, 5/8" thick,,, THAT was a pickup load,,, LOL! :laughing:

 

[Egon]

I don't think shorter length is too much of a factor for driveways and gravel roads.

Bruce

You want a smooth even road grade?

 

[bcp]

So, all these LPGS implements that are only about 4-5 feet long must be really worthless for grading a drive or road.?



Bruce

 

[fried1765]

So, all these LPGS implements that are only about 4-5 feet long must be really worthless for grading a drive or road.?



Bruce

Quality of the work, or lack thereof, is really the only difference.

 

[Egon]

Well depends, want it to look good or be done to last?

 

[jenkinsph]

Quality of the work, or lack thereof, is really the only difference.

How about some pictures of your work?

 

[fried1765]

How about some pictures of your work?

I would post pictures, but I am in Florida until the end of April.
My "work" is in Atlantic Canada .....1934 miles away.
A bit too far (and too cold) for pictures.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Thank you for the enlightenment guys !! I will be forever appreciative. Now I am ashamed of my land plane and the road work that I do with it. I am also embarrassed that I posted so many pictures of such poor quality work. Hopefully I can get over it in a minute or two. Often some one will tell me that my roads are better than the town roads. Now I will have to say they can't be. It is just your imagination because I use a land plane and the town uses a grader.

Please don't take me seriously.

gg

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thank you for the enlightenment guys !! I will be forever appreciative. Now I am ashamed of my land plane and the road work that I do with it. I am also embarrassed that I posted so many pictures of such poor quality work. Hopefully I can get over it in a minute or two. Often some one will tell me that my roads are better than the town roads. Now I will have to say they can't be. It is just your imagination because I use a land plane and the town uses a grader.

g

All I can say is that the Goodyear proving grounds in Texas has 4 motor graders and 1 Road Boss LPGS. I was told by the road maintenance supervisor that unless there is a washout, all they use is the LPGS. 8 Hours a day, 6 days a week. Now if the motor graders were so much better and faster, why would they pretty much only use the LPGS? Job security?

What I have found over the years is that the people that question the LPGS are all people that have never used them. Are some units better than others, most definitely, but they all seem to work fairly well.

Just my :2cents:

 

[Egon]

All I can say is that the Goodyear proving grounds in Texas has 4 motor graders and 1 Road Boss LPGS. I was told by the road maintenance supervisor that unless there is a washout, all they use is the LPGS. 8 Hours a day, 6 days a week. Now if the motor graders were so much better and faster, why would they pretty much only use the LPGS? Job security?

What I have found over the years is that the people that question the LPGS are all people that have never used them. Are some units better than others, most definitely, but they all seem to work fairly well.

Just my :2cents:

Then again perhaps LPGS users are not familiar with road graders or their operation.

The video does show a land plane in use.

 

[bcp]

That's not a land plane.

Bruce




PS: Here is the book mentioned in the video

Blading Aggregate Surfaces

http://www.countyengineers.org/Reso...ions/Documents/Blading_Aggregate_Surfaces.pdf

 

[fried1765]

Then again perhaps LPGS users are not familiar with road graders or their operation.

The video does show a land plane in use.

That Nebraska motor grader is THE VERY BEST..... "land plane"!

 

[CADplans]

That Nebraska motor grader is THE VERY BEST..... "land plane"!

So, I guess we will see the picture of your motor grader in April,,,
I can wait,,,

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Then again perhaps LPGS users are not familiar with road graders or their operation.

The video does show a land plane in use.

2 things. Have you personally ever used either, a road grader or a LPGS?

I have seen first hand a road grader put wash board into a road. Not saying that the operator was good or bad, just a simple fact.

I have been using a 5' & 7' LPGS for about 12 years now, not once have I ever left any wash boarding, never.

Obviously everyone can't afford a road grader, even a $7000 warn out unit. So based on that alone what do you feel is the best road maintenance implement? :confused3:

 

[downsizingnow48]

Found this on local Craigslist for $5500. Still in regular use. Called a "road maintainer".

 

[cat fever]

Thank you for the enlightenment guys !! I will be forever appreciative. Now I am ashamed of my land plane and the road work that I do with it. I am also embarrassed that I posted so many pictures of such poor quality work. Hopefully I can get over it in a minute or two. Often some one will tell me that my roads are better than the town roads. Now I will have to say they can't be. It is just your imagination because I use a land plane and the town uses a grader.

Please don't take me seriously.

gg

I just read this whole thread;
If I was going to hire someone to fix my gravel/dirt road, Gordon would be at the top of the list.
Very nice work and great pictures. Thank you.

PS: Of course I'd rather just borrow his land plane and do it myself. :laughing: