Building the Retirement Place

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I'm having trouble understanding how the garage floor is the same level as the living area. I've never seen that where I live.

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   / Building the Retirement Place #22  
The picture I posted is not the best... it's from Google Earth.

The concrete garage floor is the exact same height as the finished framed floor inside the house... barely a bump for a person in a wheel chair.... maybe a 1/4 inch max... the thickness of the Designer Solarium Lino Floor.

Come to think about it... a lot of homes in my part of California are totally barrier free as far as having no steps...

My parents home is split level and the garage inside garage door opens up to the family room... all on the same level.

Basements are as rare as hens teeth here... homes either have a crawl space or built on slab...
 
   / Building the Retirement Place #23  
The picture I posted is not the best... it's from Google Earth. The concrete garage floor is the exact same height as the finished framed floor inside the house... barely a bump for a person in a wheel chair.... maybe a 1/4 inch max... the thickness of the Designer Solarium Lino Floor. Come to think about it... a lot of homes in my part of California are totally barrier free as far as having no steps... My parents home is split level and the garage inside garage door opens up to the family room... all on the same level. Basements are as rare as hens teeth here... homes either have a crawl space or built on slab...

All the homes here have foundations with basements or crawl spaces with the garage floor lower than the living areas. Probably because of all the snow, ice, and mud our vehicles pack into the garages. :)

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   / Building the Retirement Place #24  
Not too much chance of that here...

Last snowfall was back in 77... got 2.5 to 3 inches and the world as we know it stopped.

Even a film of a guy skiing down market street in San Francisco.

Being kids... we thought it was great and made snowmen

My brother had an F250 4wd pickup and made quite a bit of money that day... towing cars that had slid of the side of the road or that couldn't back up their driveways...
 
   / Building the Retirement Place #25  
The land of electric cars, no lawns and no natural gas in the house. No explosive fumes or CO so no need to have a dropped garage? I wonder if they have no gasoline powered devices if they require the 2 hour firewall in the garage that they require on the east coast?
 
   / Building the Retirement Place #26  
Yes... fire rock is required as is self closing fire rated door from garage to house... even 65 years ago, garages here had double sheetrock separation between home and attached garage.

Gasoline powered equipment use is declining... mostly left to the professionals ;-)

I've never seen so many plug in a battery mowers... of course now without lawns... ???

Don't forget fireplaces are being outlawed and in some areas must be removed in order to sell...

I have lots of storm damage fallen oak that just sits... can't give the stuff away in my part of the Bay Area.

Sure is very different now as compared to the time when I was growing up here.

Think it's great anytime someone can realize/make a dream come true...

For me that would have to include a proper shop and workshop... maybe provision for possible solar later?
 
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Dave1949 - No one is going to offend me on this forum, I have found over the years the people here are great and try very hard to help each other. We have put a lot of thought into planning for the two of us getting older and planning the construction for it. That is what we find frustrating about house plans today, we want the old farmhouse look of years past, not crazy about all of this "open concept" crap. Large rooms and the primary needs on the fist floor is what we want.

Lots of comments about the basement in a pole barn and I appreciate the input and it has caused many a night of lost sleep over the past couple months. Still thinking this over, no final decision made yet. I started out thinking pole barn house with a poured concrete floor, but I am so worried about plumbing problems, wanting to run a new electrical outlet, speaker wires, other things that come up after construction is complete. I know lots of homes are built on them, then I thought I could build the pole barn and just put a joist type floor in it with a crawl space but no basement. The wife wants the basement for storage and storm protection and who knows what in the future. Maybe we could just build a good size storm shelter and somehow attach to house with an entrance to it from inside.

Any help on making the basement decision will be greatly appreciated.

Eddie and others - I envy your states where there is not so much red tape to build. I can understand maybe in a subdivision, but we are out in the country on acreage. I feel like I should be able to do pretty much whatever I want, but not here in IN.
 
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CurlyDave - I am capturing every idea on this thread being offered and you have some very good ones, thanks.
 
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Update - First of all thanks for all of the great comments/feedback. Last week got the new plat maps for the property from the surveyor dividing the property into two tracts; front tract is 1.5 acre (zoned residential) that has the rental house on it and the remaining tract is 13.5 acres (zoned farm). In our county if you have 10 or more acres zoned farm you get a little relief from some of the hoops you have to jump through to build. Took those to the lawyer so he can get a new warranty deed filed with the county. Went to the county health dept. and paid the application fee to get an onsite visit from them they can tell me where they want me to put the septic system, the type it has to be and the sizing. If he is happy then I go back and get the actual permit to allow it to be built. I can then take that and go to the planning commission, provide some type of drawings of what I want to do, the plat maps showing where the structures will be built and if they are happy I get to pay about $500 for a building permit. Also, contacted the power company and they will be out June 2nd to do the initial engineering visit to get power back to the house location, which is about 700 feet off the road, might as well go rob Ft. Know now.

Hopefully we can get started by mid June building something.

Plan to meet with two different builders who have built pole barn/frame homes in this area and get their ideas on the best approach. If it helps to provide advice these are the important factors for us in our planning:

1) Most home for the money spent as with pretty much everybody
2) Like to openness of a pole structure so we do not have to worry about interior load bearing walls allowing for more flexibility
3) Farmhouse look inside and out
4) Wanting something in the 2500 sq. ft + range, wife wants big of course
5) We would like the basement or something for storage and storm protection
6) We think we would like a 1 1/2 story so we can put a couple bedrooms upstairs for guests and family
7) Ground floor has to have large kitchen, pantry, family room, living/parlor room, dining room, master bedroom with master bath and large walk in closet(s)
8) If we can add an office/guest bedroom with a full bath on the fist floor that would be great.

I have floor plan drawn up that utilizes a 30x60 footprint, would like to stick with that

We have considered the Menards/Lowes house packages but none of the plans are quite what we want and not comfortable with the pricing, I bet it goes up significantly.

Our son is a contractor so we will be able to get things like windows, doors, siding, roofing and subcontractors at this pricing he uses to help keep costs down. We just thought all along that we could just draw up a set of plans that is what we want and go build it, the pole barn/frame seemed to be the most cost effective and give us the most flexibility.

Our county will allow hand drawn plans, which does help. Your ideas on the slab floor in the pole barn and how to get a basement or equivalent will be greatly appreciated.
 
   / Building the Retirement Place #30  
My house is a pole barn design with a slab floor and the garage is 12" below the house.
 

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