BX24 Comparable Models

NuBota · Mar 14, 2008

IMHO, they are close enough in specs, and if in your area the price is a wash, go with whichever dealer seems better. Being a complete noob, the dealer was important to me

I have two Kubota dealers - both EXACTLY 25 miles from me. MF dealer is, guess what, 25 miles from me. All were good dealers, but one had the slight touch that pushed me over. JD was actually closest (12 miles) good dealer as well, just a bit pricier and I liked that MF and Kubota came "standard" with BH.

You can split hairs over specs, but you can't lose either way

LBrown59 · Mar 14, 2008

srossman said:
The direct comparisons are the jd2305 (green) the Massey GC2310 or now the GC2410 coming out soon (red). I don't think that the blue company makes a scut TLB. Their TZ line is along the same size as the BX though.

What about the Simplicity Legacy ?

LBrown59 · Mar 14, 2008

ultrarunner said:
The only path I had from the front of the house to the back was through a 48" gate in a masonry wall... a wider tractor would not have worked

Bigger ain't always better.
Some times all a bigger tractor can do is get in it's own way.

LBrown59 · Mar 14, 2008

Bucky4 said:
Heck, just buy two! You'll have plenty of money!

I did buy 2 of them but they weren't BX24s. They were BX1500s.
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Bucky4 · Mar 16, 2008

LBrown59 said:
What about the Simplicity Legacy ?

That's a lawn tractor on weak steroids! I don't think that is in the same class as 24 or 2310 or TZ.

Jibber · Mar 16, 2008

Why do I get the feeling dmace works for kioti?

IslandTractor · Mar 16, 2008

Jibber said:
Why do I get the feeling dmace works for kioti?

Nah, he doesn't work for Kioti but rumor has it he does sleep with his CK20.

Dmace · Mar 16, 2008

Jibber said:
Why do I get the feeling dmace works for kioti?

Actually, I am an engineer for an Aerial Mapping company. I just can't stand people that come on to this site with their "facts" that Kioti bought plans or copied older version Kubotas. I have had my tractor for 2-1/2 years now and it has been so great that I like to defend it and tell others how great it is. Here is the post from when I bought my tractor, my great dealer was even cool enough to post pictures as they were preparing my tractor.

I can lift double what that BX24 can and still go through the 48" gate.

Crash101 · Mar 16, 2008

Dmace
I have one of those Chinese 30 hp bulldozers that was originally purchased from Artrac in western Arkansas. Great bunch of people there and helped me several times with a lot of good advice. Always had time to talk to me and reminded me once again that there are some really fine people out there selling and servicing rural equipment. They are also a Kioti dealer and caused me to have a huge interest in those tractors. Almost bought from them, but they are a couple hundred miles away and getting service or additional parts and implements would be difficult. I ended up with my kubota from a local dealer here in my home town who is another example of good pricing and outstanding service.
I can easily imagine your satisfaction from that Kioti and hope it continues to serve you well, as I know it will.
Bucky4, the differences in the weight, capability and power numbers between the BX and the Massey are mostly noticeable on paper. In the field either unit will accomplish the same task with about as much ease as the other. Shop with dealer convenience, price and how each one feels to you and those who will be operating it. I looked at them both before I decided to get something a little bigger and honestly couldn't tell you which I would prefer. I was and still am impressed with them both.

Renob · Mar 17, 2008

Dmace said:
I can lift double what that BX24 can and still go through the 48" gate.

From my Kioti CK20 brochure Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 1074 lbs.

From my BX24 workshop manual Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 750 lbs.

Hardly half, but I'm no engineer.

IslandTractor · Mar 17, 2008

Renob said:
From my Kioti CK20 brochure Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 1074 lbs.

From my BX24 workshop manual Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 750 lbs.

Hardly half, but I'm no engineer.

You are correct on the BX24. The BX23 loader capacity (LA212) was closer to half as I recall.

The main point though is that the CK20 and BX24 comparison is just not apples to apples. One is light, smaller and is developed from a mowing tractor. The other is much heavier and a CUT not a SCUT. It is difficult to do a valid comparison between the two as far as I'm concerned. Better to acknowledge that they are both fine machines and that they serve overlapping but different purposes.

Dmace · Mar 17, 2008

Renob said:
From my Kioti CK20 brochure Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 1074 lbs.

From my BX24 workshop manual Loader lift capacity to max height at pivot pin 750 lbs.

Hardly half, but I'm no engineer.

I was using the 518lbs listed on the Kubota site. Looking at it again, that is the load capacity 19" ahead of the pins. I stand corrected...

ChuckinNH · Mar 18, 2008

I might put a tape measure across your rear tires before heading through that 48" gate too

You might leave some serious rubber marks. Kidding aside, those CK20's are workhorses for sure!

Volfandt · Mar 18, 2008

I have had my tractor for 2-1/2 years now and it has been so great that I like to defend it and tell others how great it is.

And knock Kubota's to justify it, it seems......

wallace · Mar 18, 2008

If small is your flavor I would look at the Mahindra's 1815
And before somone says it is only 18 hp. I would tell you to look at the specs..
Kubota bx24 is making 23hp @3,200 rpms
Mahindra 1815 is making 18hp @2,600 rpm
Hey if we spin the mahindra at 3,200 I wonder how much hp we could make?

I will say one thing Kubota does have the market with this little guy....
Untill now...only thing I can say is I have had both of them and the Mahindra will out perform the BX any day of the week.
Oh-Ya we did the chain test to.. The mahindra will drag the bx backwards.

ChuckinNH · Mar 18, 2008

That 1815 is a tough looking tractor, tougher underneath too, and I like the slightly larger tires. With matched implements ( the BX strong point) and good marketing it could be a BX killer.

ore540 · Mar 18, 2008

wallace said:
If small is your flavor I would look at the Mahindra's 1815
And before somone says it is only 18 hp. I would tell you to look at the specs..
Kubota bx24 is making 23hp @3,200 rpms
Mahindra 1815 is making 18hp @2,600 rpm
Hey if we spin the mahindra at 3,200 I wonder how much hp we could make?

I will say one thing Kubota does have the market with this little guy....
Untill now...only thing I can say is I have had both of them and the Mahindra will out perform the BX any day of the week.
Oh-Ya we did the chain test to.. The mahindra will drag the bx backwards.

I'd be curious to see a drag test. Based on a quick scan of tractordata.com he tractors look pretty evenly matched. The BX24 is a bit heavier and has more HP at a higher rpm and the Mahindra has a slightly bigger, lower reving engine (perhaps with more torque?) For the test, what sort of ground and was that with like-sized/type tires on both? Seems like traction would be a big part of it.

The BX certainly doesn't have the most power for the dollar in the market but seems only fair to question a Kioti - Mahindra dealer's test.

Matt_Jr · Mar 18, 2008

I've owned my bx24 for less than 2 years, and honestly can say I have little experience w/anything larger than a riding mower. I tried out the massey and liked it more but had a less than pleasing experience with the dealer so I bought the kubota. However I can say that eventhough it might not have the weight limits in lifting or digging as the kioti it has done everything I wanted it to do. The fel will pick up as much gravel, dirt, rock, concrete, or snow you can fit in it. I know from experience. Ever since I got it I jump at every chance I get to make an excuse to use it. The backhoe has dug up many rocks, roots, and dirt with ease. Saved my back on many occasions. Neighbors are apreciative too. The 60" mower deck will cut grass near 4 feet tall with out a grunt and still ask for more. I like the fact that to go from forward to reverse all I have to do is move my foot- makes loader work very quick and easy. I even lifted my 30 year old jd210 garden tractor with the fel after welding hooks on the fel and set it in a trailer to haul it away. I stand at 6' tall weighing in at 232lb and not once hit my knees on the dash. They fit perfectly around the steering wheel which makes putting my feet on the pedals much easier. Putting them under the steering wheel just causes me to sqeeze my balls and becomes quite uncomfortable. I have nothing against any other tractor brand or color. I really like them all. Ever since I bought mine I have looked at others even closer. I'm a master automotive technician and just find all these machines awesome. If you like a tractor then buy it. If others bash your tractor suck it up or go tell your mom. Find the machine you think that best suites your needs by researching what they are all capable of and making an EDUCATED decision. sorry for the rant.

Ray2310 · Mar 18, 2008

I second what Matt Jr says...Just insert GC2310 instead of BX24 for me.

Volfandt · Mar 20, 2008

Oh-Ya we did the chain test to.. The mahindra will drag the bx backwards.

Great, if I ever have the need to pull another tractor backwards while it's trying to drive in the other direction I'm sure I'll find this a useful feature......