BX24 w/hydro or a ck20 w/ gear

[rimshot]

Hey rimshot, where in WI are you? This fall, I looked at the Kioti at a dealer in Ootsburg, don't remember their name.

DON'T by a tractor without driving it.

Good luck! Dave

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Hi Dave,

Here's the rub, I don't live in Wisconsin. I live in the U.P. of Michigan........and there's no dealer up here either. You can forget about the dealer in Ootsburg also. The name you can't recall is Brugginks. They were one of three given me and apparently they are parts only now. They also have a store in Plymouth, Wi named Brugginks. I assume they connected. With two tractor dealers named Brugginks in neighboring towns I figure they must have dropped the brand name of Kioti also. If that is so,that makes four ex dealers. I ran more ex's in Michigan also a few days ago.

DISCLOSURE* In rechecking this correspondence from the Sales analyst or Customer relations person to answer your question I must now admit I missed some light blue printing preceding the three dealers that says they are parts only. My apologies, i don't mean to mislead anybody. They did qualify yet another franchisee Brugginks as active. One helpful thing is the link for a new dealer locator which works much better. The Oosterville Brugginks told me himself he dropped Kioti but did not offer any parts either.

Here's what all this looks like:

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Company
Bruggink's Inc.

Address
N5591 State Hwy 57

Plymouth WI 53073 USA

Phone
920-892-9444







Here are a list of Parts Only Dealerships in your area



Bil-Bar Farms
WI
Nashotah
(262) 646-8186
53058-9533

Bruggink's Inc
WI
Oostburg
(920) 564-6555
53070

Portland Implement
WI
Cashton
(608) 654-5575
54619-7265




You may also, go to our website and search for more dealerships by selecting the following link KIOTI - run ahead of the pack!.

Please change the miles to more than 100.

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Portland Implement had a good deal on a new BX24 @ $15000

I hope it's Ok that I posted the above imfo.

rim

 

[IslandTractor]

While awaiting my new tractor (ordered it and waited a month and a half) it started to snow..... McFarlane's in Sauk City lent me an older Kubota B7500 hst with a loader and it was a blast! Zippy little tractor, ran forever on a can of fuel. The newer version, the B7510 is definitly worth checking into, and much more comparable to the Kioti you are looking at than the BX.

Actually Kubota has updated the B7510 and now has what they call the B2320 which is most comparable at least in HP to the CK20. I think it is sort of between the BX and CK20 in utility tractor performance but closer to the CK.

The real issue for the original poster though is that he has very limited tasks and there was nothing that the excellent BX24 could not handle. I appreciate all the arguments about why the CK20 is much more tractor than the BX24 and agree but for the tasks listed by rimshot, the BX would be a fine match.

 

[easygo]

Actually Kubota has updated the B7510 and now has what they call the B2320 which is most comparable at least in HP to the CK20. I think it is sort of between the BX and CK20 in utility tractor performance but closer to the CK.

The real issue for the original poster though is that he has very limited tasks and there was nothing that the excellent BX24 could not handle. I appreciate all the arguments about why the CK20 is much more tractor than the BX24 and agree but for the tasks listed by rimshot, the BX would be a fine match.

Rimshot,
I agree that the BX would handle all that well. You would quickly run out of things to do with the BX if digging out a few small stumps and leveling woods roads on 4 acres is all you would want to do. I made the suggestion of looking at the B7510/B2320 as a middle ground between the two because youset your sights on two machines that are so far apart on the tractor measuring scale. No way that I would ever want to put a 7510 as a side-by-side comparison to a Ck-20. I was in the same boat. One seemed too small the other too big. I use the 7510 in the woods about 1/3 of the time and ground clearance is a major issue.

 

[BTI]

Off the subject but man I wish these companies would pick a way to designate tractor size/hp etc that made sense LOL.

BTI

 

[rimshot]

Rimshot,
I agree that the BX would handle all that well. You would quickly run out of things to do with the BX if digging out a few small stumps and leveling woods roads on 4 acres is all you would want to do. I made the suggestion of looking at the B7510/B2320 as a middle ground between the two because youset your sights on two machines that are so far apart on the tractor measuring scale. No way that I would ever want to put a 7510 as a side-by-side comparison to a Ck-20. I was in the same boat. One seemed too small the other too big. I use the 7510 in the woods about 1/3 of the time and ground clearance is a major issue.

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I just want all to be aware if you posted your comments I am grateful to you. Everybody that commented took their best shot at trying to help me by sharing with all an opinion or a fact they know of. That is what I was hoping for and that is what I got even if the opinions differed.

I have studied the differences between the tractors and have learned much in that regard from this board and comparing specs from one tractor to another at company websites. I also believe I have boiled the choice down to either of "the orange K's". You folks have helped me do that and confirmed my choices. I guess you could say this choice does not have to hang on which tractor can lift the most or how many cats i can throw under the oil pan when I'm parked on top of an Oak stump when I'm building my 1500' road through the woods. (and it is an important point all the same) My decision ultimately has to be made by me. i spose whichever tractor I pick will be the right answer. Now I know you get what you paid for and at least in this comparison I believe Kioti CK20 is more tractor than the lighter weight BX24. If it boils down to a judgement regarding necessity I could go on living my retirement with neither because I don't have to have a compact tractor and could manage w/o. But I am now retired after many years and I happen to want a tractor and I can afford it. I can allways find one more stump or hole to dig. Hey! for that matter, this is starting to sound like work. just maybe I'll go fishing.....bir grin

I know, the BX is fine but the CK is twice as fine (and keep on telling me if you feel like it) but who wants a shot at this question. If I pay something like $15,000 for the BX and $17250 for the CK today and all things are equal, what would either be worth in 5 years with say 500 hours on each machine. I'm thinking the BX is going to turn the corner on that CK at that point. It still is about this thread

Thanks again to all the posters.

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[ChuckinNH]

Ah yes, the true cost of ownership, and how few look at that. First, I suppose you would have to find a good used BX24, but if they are available, looking on tractorsmart.com is a good way to answer your question. I suppose that if there are a large number of low hour used tractors of a specific make, and model, that could tell you something too, though I'm not sure what.

 

[TBDonnelly]

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My decision ultimately has to be made by me. i spose whichever tractor I pick will be the right answer.

Absolutely!

If I pay something like $15,000 for the BX and $17250 for the CK today and all things are equal, what would either be worth in 5 years with say 500 hours on each machine. I'm thinking the BX is going to turn the corner on that CK at that point.

Now that's a loaded question! Pricing is regional and who know's what will be in five years.

Don

 

[rimshot]

Good news for me. I'm gonna get a chance to test drive a new CK20 S HST. I happened to check in with the salesman of my closest Kioti dealership of 200 miles. I told him I had a chance to test drive the very nice BX and wished I could drive that CK20 that you guys are boasting about. (big grin) I'm not sure that I was crazy about traveling that far otherwise. Turns out he has a second home just 30 miles from me and that he will be coming up in a couple weeks. He offered to trailer a new CK20 up with a FEL so i could drive it. I shall wait patiently to test drive. Even if I decide to take the CK20 on the spot after he brings it up,he's going to have to take it back with him as i want the backhoe installed and probably the tires filled.

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[IslandTractor]

Regarding resale of these two tractors: I doubt there is a tractor made today that has better resale value than a BX23/24 (maybe the B21 beats it). The reason I think is pretty simple. They are very popular as first tractors, they are sized to work with even a large suburban yard, and they are Kubota made. I see them for sale in our local advertizer rag quite frequently so I think people often buy them, use them for 50 or 100 hrs in a home landscaping project then put them on the market with relatively few hours and generally in great shape. Point is they are easy to sell.

I have had experience trading in a CK20 TLB and I think I got a very fair trade. My cost of ownership for depreciation after two years, 180hrs and a trade that included having the dealer do all the transport (not a small issue with my island location) was $2500 or about $15/hr. Not bad at all in my opinion. The dealer had the tractor sold before he got it off his truck and I'm sure he made a reasonable profit so there is clearly a market for used CK20 TLBs as well. I suspect as time goes on and the Kioti name becomes better known that market will increase as well.
I'd give a slight edge to the BX on resale but unless you intend to turn around and sell the tractor in a year or so that may not amount to much at all.

A CK20 TLB is a very impressive piece of equipment when you consider bang for the buck. I've argued that rimshot doesn't really need one for his limited projects but I also agree that there is no comparison between the CK and the BX in terms of how much work you can do per dollar of TLB investment. CK wins hands down.

 

[easygo]

The resale value of the tractors in my area seems to bee very strong. I think that Island Tractor made a good point. Paying $15 or even $20 for the work you do with the machine is pretty good. I sometimes think about that. Would I have payed $20 to someone to get the work done I just finished in an hour. Sure I would. Could I find someone to do the work for that much? I don't know, but I get my money's worth in the form of satisfaction that I accomplished something and had fun in the process.