BX24 w/hydro or a ck20 w/ gear

[bearhawk]

I had the concept of buying a new Tractor, doing all the projects required and reselling it. Sort of like money in the bank that you can play with.

The problem.... You always find something to do with the tractor. The thought of not having one in the yard scares me.

I looked briefly at the bx series, but I already had a lawnmower. So when I looked at the B7510 I asked the local dealer to try it out. He let me drive it around a paved parking lot. I asked about trying the loader. His answer was "we don't like to get them dirty".

The local Kioti dealer threw me the keys and pointed me to a back location on his lot with lots of dirt.

I have a interesting question!

Do you really think you will sell this tractor? (Or is that what you tell the CEO). Because I would want the best Tractor for the job, because the job might never end.

I know you will be happy with the CK

 

[davitk]

Good news for me. I'm gonna get a chance to test drive a new CK20 S HST. He offered to trailer a new CK20 up with a FEL so i could drive it. I shall wait patiently to test drive.

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Congrats! bet you just bought a tractor once you get the taste for a machine on your own place you probably won't want to give it back. At home test drives are THE MOST powerful sales tool, kind of like serving an alcoholic that first drink.....

...and hydrostat, too!! Tell the salesman you'll take it for the same price as gear.

 

[rimshot]

I just wish I would have done this a couple of years ago as it's still not too late. You know, the first thing I did when I bought this place we're living in is cleaned a spot in the woods and built a 24' x 24' garage. There happened to be a beautiful White Pine 22" at the butt section. I cut that tree down because it leaned toward the proposed location of where I was going to put my slab in for the garage. I started taking 8' logs off that beautiful White pine tree until I ran out of decent log and was into branches and knots and twisted trunk. Anyway, I got five of the nicest straightest 8' logs you ever wanted to see.

Well, I called a local guy who brought in a portable band saw and cut me up enough 2 x 4's to build two garages + lot's of nice other dimensional stuff. My neighbor was going to build a garage also so I gave him the rest of the 2 x 4's (full dimension clear white piine lumber). Well, he was a contractor and when he saw how nice and clear that log ran he about cried saying it should have gone to a mill for trim and door jambs or 5/4 lumber because it was so nice. So far as I was concerned, it made dam nice garage studs too.

The point of all this story telling is that my neighbor also owned an old Kubota TLB. I dunno how old, maybe 12 years old. But it was bigger than a bx but not by much. Without that nice little tractor we would never have been able to get those big heavy pine logs off the ground and skidded to the saw deck. I would hook the chain around the butt section of one end of that massively heavy log and away it would go. We snaked them all up and out with that little giant tractor. Now, knowing the limitations of the bx front end loader(lifts about 485 lbs or so) and those small tires as compared with the ck20 rated at close to 1100 FEL lift, I doubt the bx could have swung the job but I know the ck could have. That doesn't mean it's a show stopper because so far as White Pines go, the lumber camps got most of those nice virgin trees from the Michigan timber lots 80-90 years ago and I don't do logs like that every day. But, it might be nice to know I could.

another use for my tractor will be on the beaches of lake Michigan. I own two homes out there where one is for sale. Due to Michigan's dismal business climate few homes are being sold. Anyway I digress. The last few years, Great lake levels have gone down leaving once beautiful sand beaches for rocky hardpan lake bottom. At least in my neck of the woods. Up from those hardpan bottoms springs tag alders and tuff old woody deeply rooted vegitation. I'm going to take that new tractor out there and and raise heck with some tag alders. you cut em and they grow back and you can't just pull them because they are like a bush. Now that's a good project for that BX. Maybe the loader could get em but if not the backhoe will. Come to think of it, I will need to cut my access spot to the beach back through that sand dune again this year that mother nature keeps trying to close. And I need another 10 yards of 23A road gravel to spread on my driveway out at the lake.

Sorry for being so windy but I'm trying to justify buying a tractor here. Wanna buy a house on lake Michigan?

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[rimshot]

I had the concept of buying a new Tractor, doing all the projects required and reselling it. Sort of like money in the bank that you can play with.



I have a interesting question!

Do you really think you will sell this tractor? (Or is that what you tell the CEO). Because I would want the best Tractor for the job, because the job might never end.

I know you will be happy with the CK

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Hi Bearhawk,

That's a very good question and deserves an honest answer. Five years ago, I was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease and it's of course progressive. I still feel great today but know there will come a day when my body fails to respond to what my brain tells it. My left hand tremors but it still works today and I remain optomistic that it will tommorrow. But time is precious. if I can get beat Mr. P out of five more good years, it will be a better world because of it. On the other hand, if I can't get out of bed Wednesday and I pay $17,000 for a tractor on Tuesday, my wife just got taken to the cleaners by her husband for spending money reckleessly. So, I choose to remain positive and will call this obsession of mine an investment in a tractor instead of a foolish business deal. Only time will tell. But i'm 60 so I'm still young enough to have some fun, we can afford it and rather than to sit around and feel sorry for myself I am going to live my life just like the rest of us. If my legs go out from under me tomorrow Sunday i'm out not $17000 but only what it depreciated. Hence, I dared wonder how much these things depreciate and dared to ask. What ever the amount, it's going to be be cheap because I had some quality days and you can't take that away from me. After all, we're all of us paid in full anyway because nobody or nothing owed us a dime in the first place. Hope nobody thinks that's being selfish or fool hardy but you asked. I will admit to rolling the dice and this is something I always wanted to do.

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[IslandTractor]

Congrats! bet you just bought a tractor once you get the taste for a machine on your own place you probably won't want to give it back. At home test drives are THE MOST powerful sales tool, kind of like serving an alcoholic that first drink.....

...and hydrostat, too!! Tell the salesman you'll take it for the same price as gear.

I'd have to agree. It is an unfair contest to compare a CK with a BX in a test drive. Any red blooded power hungry machine worshipping American male is going to want the bigger tractor. Abandon all hope of making a rational needs based decision (which I still think the BX could win) after a test drive.

 

[rimshot]

Congrats! bet you just bought a tractor once you get the taste for a machine on your own place you probably won't want to give it back. At home test drives are THE MOST powerful sales tool, kind of like serving an alcoholic that first drink.....

...and hydrostat, too!! Tell the salesman you'll take it for the same price a

gear.

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Thanks davitk,

Actually, it will be a couple of weeks before the saleman had planned on coming up. So I'm tapping my toes and counting to ten as I wait.

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[rimshot]

I'd have to agree. It is an unfair contest to compare a CK with a BX in a test drive. Any red blooded power hungry machine worshipping American male is going to want the bigger tractor. Abandon all hope of making a rational needs based decision (which I still think the BX could win) after a test drive.

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I absolutely loved that BX but given the opportunity I feel the urge to try out the CK. Than I can honestly say I did my homework.

 

[LBrown59]

I'd have to agree. It is an unfair contest to compare a CK with a BX in a test drive. Any red blooded power hungry machine worshipping American male is going to want the bigger tractor. Abandon all hope of making a rational needs based decision (which I still think the BX could win) after a test drive.

Not only is it unfair it's misleading and leads to wrong decisions.
Why not compare a JD 2520 with a MF GC2310? Same difference!
The first thing to do is determine what class tractor is needed.
Then compare several brands of that class with each other.
If not done like that it will lead to the wrong conclusion.

 

[Gittyup]

Not only is it unfair it's misleading and leads to wrong decisions.
Why not compare a JD 2520 with a MF GC2310? Same difference!
The first thing to do is determine what class tractor is needed.
Then compare several brands of that class with each other.
If not done like that it will lead to the wrong conclusion.

Perhaps trying different sizes will help him figure out "what class tractor is needed". This man admits he "needs" nothing. He is going to get what he "wants". But, I'm not sure he knows what he wants as this point. I suspect that once he tries out a real CUT tractor, the BX will seem like what it is: a subCUT. You are right, there is really no comparison when looking at SCUTs vs CUTs, no matter the brand. If this man wants a real tractor, he'll buy a real tractor. If he wants a souped up garden tractor, then he'll get a SCUT. From the way he's talking, once he tries a real tractor, I expect the BX will no longer be in the running.

 

[davitk]

Why not compare a JD 2520 with a MF GC2310? Same difference!

my guess is he likes the color Orange