This is perhaps a tangent from the thread. I test drove a Kioti CK20 gear yesterday, and had trouble with the loader hydraulics. It seemed to take forever to warm them up (temp was high 20's, or 30F), which I did by cycling, or trying to the loader up, and down, curl, and uncurl, etc. as I was letting the engine warm. When the dealer said it was fine to use it, I played in a partially frozen snowbank with the loader for several minutes, maybe 20,or so. At the end of the warm up time, and using time, the hydraulics were still quite pokey, and the loader still wouldn't lift the front of the tractor with any athority..... an inch, or two mabe with the bucket dumped. Is this anywhere normal for cold weather operation with this tractor? I tried both a JD, and Mahindra 2015 yesterday too, and had stronger performance cold than the CK20 warm. The Kioti dealer I was at had let the fuel start to gell too,and we started it without adding anything to help ungell the fuel. Perhaps it was poor setup, or something.