Confronting another tresspasser. Step 1 went ok

[300UGUY]

Just so you know, as I also live in mid Michigan and have some experience with this subject, the State Police told me directly (as did the 911 operator), that only the registered landowner can file or make a claim about trespassing. No letters of authority, or acting on behalf of, or any relatives, etc. If your name is on the deed, you can report or flie or charge, if its not YOUR property, keep your mouth closed and don't waste your time.

I found that to be true, even when the idiots were poaching deer, at night, with lights. The local sheriff refused to come out, since it wasn't my property. They were not interested in the poaching, the DNR handles that. The DNR asked me to go out and get the plate numbers!! Yeah, good idea, go interrupt somebody that is doing something illegal, with guns? You might just have a AZzhole for a neighbor, not much you can do about it.

 

[the old grind]

Of course we might can file a noise complaint, however fruitless, which might bring some attention to what brought it on. The 'racetrack' has parts within 100 ft of the our quiet road and 'Blaaat, blaaat' is easily heard by those who have promised to report unwelcomed presence to legal owners who are quite a bit nastier than we are. (also two toddlers in two homes within earshot whose families are upset that the noise interrupts their nap times. no more than that)

I'm not throwing my weight around or using/altering anyone's land, just supporting those who have promised to the owners upon request to report unapproved activity to them as I would any friend so committed. (flame suit on to face all legal pundits herein)

As I said, along with no frontage I have no personal dog in this fight, but zzvyb6 if you'll PM your address to me I could perhaps send the boys over to ride around your yard until you show up and express your own desires. The trespassers also live in mid-Michigan and to them it means they can do what they d___-well please with impunity. We're not icebergs and we do things together as supportive friends.

The plot continues:

Now that they're both home from work I spoke with the two friends/neighbors who have personally committed to look after the two 20ac plots. I'll call the properties East (w/house) & West (vacant). One caretaker (West's) was pretty PO'd and ready to confront Mr Big-shot about going off on his lady. The other said "No way" as if in disbelief, so I showed him the paths across the line where he had posted signs as a promise to East's owner when the old fella went into a care facility. Both agreed that they would catch heqq if found to have abrogated their promised duties and allowed someone to "tear up the place" (their words).

East's brother had prettied-up the house just recently, and had it surveyed for the listing. We saw no sign of either the survey markers ight at the road or the "no Trespassing" signs that had been replaced this year. "__'s son is a retired cop," he said, "and I don't think the bugger would want to deal with him if it comes to that."

I doubt the Dad has the scrotes to come back and do or say anything, having dealt already with the two most docile among the six of us he's met so far. He's probably cooled off by now and accepted the reality, but we're on guard for a reappearance and ready to call the landowners as we've promised to do. He would not want us to call them in, or they the cops, if he knew them like we do and I'd bet he won't go far enough to incite that next step on our part.

Sooooo, my guess is that this deal is pretty much over already, and without additional comments it won't see a 'page 2'. So much for the drama that might have been fun to pass on to you folks here. Further comments are welcome of course, and if there are additional words or actions I'll share & invite y'all to come on down and tell the cops to ignore the property owners' wishes once they (POs) hear what's been going on. tog

(Anyone else want to comment on a situation they don't fully understand the details of, or shoot the messenger????)

 

[lilranch2001]

Of course we might can file a noise complaint, which might also bring attention to what brought it on. The 'racetrack' has parts within 100 ft of the our quiet road and 'Blaaat, blaaat' is easily heard by those who have promised to report unwelcomed presence to legal owners who are quite a bit nastier than we are. (also two toddlers in two homes within earshot whose families are upset that the noise interrupts their nap times. no more than that)

I'm not throwing my weight around or using/altering anyone's land, just supporting those who have promised to report unapproved activity to the respective landowners as I would any friend so committed. (flame suit on to face all legal pundits herein)

As I said, along with no frontage I have no personal dog in this fight, but zzvyb6 if you'll PM your address to me I could perhaps send the boys over to ride around your yard until you show up and express your own desires.

I'm not throwing my weight around or using/altering anyone's land, just supporting those who have promised to report unapproved activity to the respective landowners as I would anyone else so committed and true to their word. The trespassers also live in mid-Michigan and to them it means they can do what they d___-well please with impunity.

The plot continues:

Now that they're both home from work I spoke with the two friends/neighbors who are personally committed to look after the two 20ac plots. I'll call the properties East (w/house) & West (vacant). One caretaker (West's) was pretty PO'd and ready to confront Mr Big-shot about going off on his lady. The other said "No way" as if in disbelief, so I showed him the paths across the line where he had posted signs as a promise to East's owner when the old fella went into a care facility. Both agreed that they would catch heqq if found to have abrogated their promised duties and allowed someone to "tear up the place" (their words).

East's brother had prettied-up the house just recently, and had it surveyed for the listing. We saw no sign of either the survey markers ight at the road or the "no Trespassing" signs that had been replaced this year. "__'s son is a retired cop," he said, "and I don't think the bugger would want to deal with him if it comes to that."

I doubt the Dad has the scrotes to come back and do or say anything, having dealt already with the two most docile among the six of us he's met so far. He's probably cooled off by now and accepted the reality, but we're on guard for a reappearance and ready to call the landowners as we've promised to do. He would not want us to call them in, or they the cops, if he knew them like we do and I'd bet he won't go far enough to incite that next step on our part.

Sooooo, my guess is that this deal is pretty much over already, and without additional comments it won't see a 'page 2'. So much for the drama that might have been fun to pass on to you folks here. Further comments are welcome of course, and if there are additional words or actions I'll share & invite y'all to come on down and tell the cops to ignore the property owners once they hear what's been going on. tog

(Anyone else want to comment on a situation they don't fully understand the details of, or shoot the messenger????)

I have to admit, I don't really have a clue on what is going on, and I have re read your posts several times.
Can you tell me which language you are speaking in?

 

[the old grind]

Sorry, I've been asked to keep my mouth shut about all this.

That said, I kinda wondering why you're here if you don't understand yet. Maybe y'all can just read what you want into it. btw: I'm not an English major, just a guy with his neck stuck out for all my fans to get in their whacks. I can count the participants with fingers left over. Can't anyone else? (Geez Louise, I was just telling a story, and I apologize for the confusing delivery.)

Guess I'm a loooong way from being famous for being famous, huh? :hissyfit:

 

[jimpen]

I wonder if it legal to put some sort of homemade stop sticks in the path in the middle of the path in the middle of the property? If they file a complaint with the cops about them they are essentially admitting to trespassing.

 

[the old grind]

I found that to be true, even when the idiots were poaching deer, at night, with lights. The local sheriff refused to come out, since it wasn't my property. They were not interested in the poaching, the DNR handles that. The DNR asked me to go out and get the plate numbers!! Yeah, good idea, go interrupt somebody that is doing something illegal, with guns? You might just have a AZzhole for a neighbor, not much you can do about it.

Been there when the guy who sold the 1/2 ac & house to the new guy who wants to assert himself ('let him do it!' ) kept the back 9 1/2ac so he can brag about 'nine deer again this year'. We were trapping adjacent land with permission and saw a literal highway of deer tracks going under his stand and connecting the mind-numbing property mentioned above to a huge corn crib feeder nearby surrounded by three ground blinds and a tree-stand during the recent baiting ban.

Just out of curiosity in my ignorance, and anonymously (sorry for big words), I called MI-DNR to see if they were interested. "Well, if we caught him with more deer than he had tags for ... ok, maybe next season." I guess we agreed then to ... 'let him do it!' (cue the band will ya?)

btw: Not many of us around here are Wolverine-scrappy, but we're sometimes Spartan-strong when sticking together.
(My turn to :stirthepot As always, flame suit ON awaiting the judgement of onlookers!

 

[the old grind]

I wonder if it legal to put some sort of homemade stop sticks in the path in the middle of the path in the middle of the property? If they file a complaint with the cops about them they are essentially admitting to trespassing.

Have done similar in my own yard long ago but wouldn't be right or legal in any way to do such a thing where I was only allowed/asked to observe and report outside of hunting or trapping seasons, and otherwise given permission only to cross the one property (as a shortcut) to cut firewood on another property for/with another landowner.

("I'm here all week, folks.")

Did we wear this out yet???:confused3:

 

[forgeblast]

I doubt the Dad has the scrotes to come back and do or say anything, having dealt already with the two most docile among the six of us he's met so far. He's probably cooled off by now and accepted the reality,


Dont count on it. I know neighbors like them.

 

[murphy1244]

Have done similar in my own yard long ago but wouldn't be right or legal in any way to do such a thing where I was only allowed/asked to observe and report outside of hunting or trapping seasons, and otherwise given permission only to cross the one property (as a shortcut) to cut firewood on another property for/with another landowner.

("I'm here all week, folks.")


Did we wear this out yet???:confused3:

Keep it up, I'm lovin it!

 

[Rock knocker]

I have to admit, I don't really have a clue on what is going on, and I have re read your posts several times.
Can you tell me which language you are speaking in?

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