Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt

   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #21  
The only complaint I have with the hydraulic top link is that when you switch to another implement you have to get out and back in the tractor to move the top link in or out for your adjustment just so you can hook up the implement. On the manual top link you don’t have to get back in the tractor. Wish there was a way to do it from outside the tractor.

Look at the linkage from the remote's levers to the actual valve body, which is probably under floor or behind the cab. You may be able to make an extension lever from there to the back so you can operate it while hooking up an implement.
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #22  
Look at the linkage from the remote's levers to the actual valve body, which is probably under floor or behind the cab. You may be able to make an extension lever from there to the back so you can operate it while hooking up an implement.

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   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #23  
My Branson has the remotes in the same place but the linkage is not as straightforward as that. Looks like it'd be easy to fab up an extra lever there. I'd use a locknut and a tall nut on the threaded part and weld a lever to that.
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #24  
I have a heavy ROBB( roll over box blade ) and LPGS( land plane grading scraper ). Both have manual shanks. If I could only have one - the ROBB. It does tasks the scraper can not do. The ROBB will crown the trail/driveway, clean out the ditches, move material from here to there, etc, as well as smooth things out.

The hydraulic top link is much more useful when coupled with the ROBB. That's because the ROBB is capable of so many varied jobs.

Just so that Bridge4 knows what a ROBB is. It is a roll over box blade I highly recommend a 65" unit for use with your 2638.

I have and use Gannon ROBBs myself, an 81", 65" and 36" units. Unfortunately Gannon stopped building them back in 2005-2006. :(
 

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   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #25  
So I figured all I need to do is pull on the connecting rod just a bit and I can move it. I’d love to weld a lever on it, maybe this weekend.
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt
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#26  
I have a heavy ROBB( roll over box blade ) and LPGS( land plane grading scraper ). Both have manual shanks. If I could only have one - the ROBB. It does tasks the scraper can not do. The ROBB will crown the trail/driveway, clean out the ditches, move material from here to there, etc, as well as smooth things out.

The hydraulic top link is much more useful when coupled with the ROBB. That's because the ROBB is capable of so many varied jobs.

Thanks! It looks like the fit-rite and a ROBB is the way to go. I emailed them and with their lead times, I think I will order a full kit this winter and have it ready for spring. I won't be able to use it really at this point if it comes mid winter and I am set for snowblowing.

Just curious, pro's and cons of a ROBB vs regular BB
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt
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#27  
Just so that Bridge4 knows what a ROBB is. It is a roll over box blade I highly recommend a 65" unit for use with your 2638.

I have and use Gannon ROBBs myself, an 81", 65" and 36" units. Unfortunately Gannon stopped building them back in 2005-2006. :(

Thanks for the photos Brian, that certainlty helps! and thanks for your emails on the fitrite! I will be placing an order this winter for sure. Excited to get set up and get my trails/roads in shape this spring!
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #28  
Thanks! It looks like the fit-rite and a ROBB is the way to go. I emailed them and with their lead times, I think I will order a full kit this winter and have it ready for spring. I won't be able to use it really at this point if it comes mid winter and I am set for snowblowing.

Just curious, pro's and cons of a ROBB vs regular BB

ROBB gets all the rippers ready for use with a single pull of a handle. Makes things easier and faster. Depending on how far your back window opens if you can do this from the tractor seat or not. Pulling the lever from the seat is the exact design and works well from an open station tractor. Again depends on how far your window opens if you can do that from your cab tractor. You could connect a rope to pull the lever if you can't reach the lever itself.

A std box blade has to have each individual ripper lowered manually. So you would have to stop the tractor, get off, adjust each ripper get back on the tractor.

You can do this in minutes, or in seconds with a ROBB. That by itself is why I prefer them so much over a std box blade. You can also get a box blade with hydraulic actuated rippers which will be heavier and operate even easier, but then you will need a 3rd rear remote of some type to operate those.

The rippers go about twice as deep (10") compared to a std box blade. (4-6"?)

The ROBB is heavier than a std box blade, but you can get a heavy duty box blade that would weigh as much or even more depending on what you were to purchase. This is a simple case of you get what you pay for when it comes to box blades, most implements really. ;)
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt
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#29  
ROBB gets all the rippers ready for use with a single pull of a handle. Makes things easier and faster. Depending on how far your back window opens if you can do this from the tractor seat or not. Pulling the lever from the seat is the exact design and works well from an open station tractor. Again depends on how far your window opens if you can do that from your cab tractor. You could connect a rope to pull the lever if you can't reach the lever itself.

A std box blade has to have each individual ripper lowered manually. So you would have to stop the tractor, get off, adjust each ripper get back on the tractor.

You can do this in minutes, or in seconds with a ROBB. That by itself is why I prefer them so much over a std box blade. You can also get a box blade with hydraulic actuated rippers which will be heavier and operate even easier, but then you will need a 3rd rear remote of some type to operate those.

The rippers go about twice as deep (10") compared to a std box blade. (4-6"?)

The ROBB is heavier than a std box blade, but you can get a heavy duty box blade that would weigh as much or even more depending on what you were to purchase. This is a simple case of you get what you pay for when it comes to box blades, most implements really. ;)

Thanks for breaking all that down. Sounds like something that would work great for what I want to do.
 
   / Couple questions about trail grading, and hydraulic top links/top and tilt #30  
A std box blade has to have each individual ripper lowered manually. So you would have to stop the tractor, get off, adjust each ripper get back on the tractor.

You can do this in minutes, or in seconds with a ROBB. That by itself is why I prefer them so much over a std box blade. You can also get a box blade with hydraulic actuated rippers which will be heavier and operate even easier, but then you will need a 3rd rear remote of some type to operate those.


Some companies also make non ROBB box blades that have a single lever to raise or lower all the rippers at once. I have one from Gearmore. I could operate it from the tractor seat if I had a lot of upper body strength. The one time I tried it I pulled a muscle in my back hard enough to make me wish I'd spent the extra few hundred for hydraulic rippers. After that I get off and use two hands.

I'm sure the ROBB is better for the other reasons you mentioned though. Weight definitely makes the blade dig in deeper.

Every once in a while I want to lower just one ripper, usually in an attempt to pull out a stump or rock in the middle of leveling something with the BB. It's rare though.
 
 

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