Comparison CTV TO HST COMPARISON

[CosmoAU]

Nothing personal against your tractor, but for loader work, I have one hand on wheel, one hand on loader controler, and one foot on direction/speed pedal. If I had a 3rd hand, I guess I could operate 'shuttle shifter' too. For the 30 to 50 hp tractor range with FEL work, I think hydro would be preferred. Philip.

I grew up(and still do) operating backhoes along with tractors. It doesn't take long for the use of a shuttle for forward/reverse to become second nature doing loader work. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't let that steer me away from a particular tractor. I actually prefer it and don't like HST. Guess that's why they make all varieties. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[KWentling]

Nothing personal against your tractor, but for loader work, I have one hand on wheel, one hand on loader controler, and one foot on direction/speed pedal. If I had a 3rd hand, I guess I could operate 'shuttle shifter' too. For the 30 to 50 hp tractor range with FEL work, I think hydro would be preferred. Philip.

Thats what your other leg is for. Knee on the steering wheel. Frees up your hand for the reverser.

Hard to beat HST for loader work. CVT works better for bigger tractors.

Kim

 

[jdbnh]

I just got a quote on a Boomer 3040 tractor with a factory CAB and was told the cab model only comes with the CTV transmission. Being new to this I would like to know how the two transmissions differ in operation and what are the Pros and Cons. I have an HST transmission on my Cub Cadet but have never owned something with a Constant Velocity Transmission.

Thanks in advance!

the cvt has been used in big tractor for years now. they hold up really good. when NH was testing the cvtr on the compacts they woudl put 5000 hours on a tractor before they even checked the transmission. they are really good and smooth and have many really handy adjustments and settings.

 

[art]

Would you please explain?

I did a quick search and couldn't find an issue pushing heavy loads. What do you mean by breakout?

These transmissions require a little finer touch to adjusting and use. When things are not right they do just stop.

 

[RoyJackson]

Y'know...at least we'll start seeing some new topics:
"CVT vs. Gear"
"HST vs. CVT"

This should bring an entirely new phase to TBN!

 

[k0ua]

Y'know...at least we'll start seeing some new topics:
"CVT vs. Gear"
"HST vs. CVT"

This should bring an entirely new phase to TBN!

+1 on that, here we go:laughing:
James K0UA

 

[TripleR]

I grew up(and still do) operating backhoes along with tractors. It doesn't take long for the use of a shuttle for forward/reverse to become second nature doing loader work. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't let that steer me away from a particular tractor. I actually prefer it and don't like HST. Guess that's why they make all varieties. Different strokes for different folks.

I agree with it not taking long to get use to the shuttle shift as I have also used them on a backhoe and tractors. Our M8540 has hydraulic shuttle shift which really works well in comparison to our old synchro unit, but even though I am use to it, I still prefer the HST. Personally if I have to use a shuttle for forward or reverse, I will just stay with a geared unit.

As you say, different strokes.

 

[farmall40]

My dealer told me today that a hydro trans is old technology and will eventually be phased out. That's why you can't get a hydro with a cab in the 40-50 hp Case/New Holland line.

 

[Grandad4]

My dealer told me today that a hydro trans is old technology and will eventually be phased out. That's why you can't get a hydro with a cab in the 40-50 hp Case/New Holland line.

Is it possible his opinion is influenced by the fact CNH has plowed umpty-million $ into developing a CVT product in that hp range? Nah. Tractor dealers are always totally impartial. :laughing: But we could look on the bright side... now everyone who likes HST's (including me), can claim to prefer the "tried and true" old fashioned approach instead of all that unproven newfangled stuff.

 

[k0ua]

Is it possible his opinion is influenced by the fact CNH has plowed umpty-million $ into developing a CVT product in that hp range? Nah. Tractor dealers are always totally impartial. :laughing: But we could look on the bright side... now everyone who likes HST's (including me), can claim to prefer the "tried and true" old fashioned approach instead of all that unproven newfangled stuff.

That is Hilarious, :thumbsup::thumbsup::laughing:
James K0UA